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Young Americans flunk geography, according to National Geographic quiz survey
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | November 20, 2002 | Paul Recer

Posted on 11/20/2002 11:50:02 AM PST by anguish

Young Americans flunk geography, according to National Geographic quiz survey

Wed Nov 20, 9:43 AM ET

By PAUL RECER, AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON - Ask young people to pick out Iraq on a map of the Middle East, and only 13 percent can locate it — despite a barrage of headlines and broadcast reports about a possible war against President Saddam Hussein.

Same goes for Israel or Iran, according to a National Geographic study that finds there has been little to no improvement in students' knowledge of geography since 1988.

The society survey released Wednesday found that only about one in seven of Americans between the age of 18 and 24, the prime age for military warriors, could find Iraq. The score was the same for Iran, an Iraqi neighbor.

Although the majority, 58 percent, of the young Americans surveyed knew that the Taliban and al-Qaida were based in Afghanistan, only 17 percent could find that country on a world map. A U.S.-led force attacked the Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan in October 2001, and President Bush has said he is prepared to use force to rid Iraq of any chemical, nuclear or biological weapons programs.

The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young people in nine countries and scored the results with traditional grades. The surveyed Americans got a "D," with an average of 23 correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21, just three points from a failing grade.

Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by Germany and Italy, each with 38. None of the countries got an "A," which required average scores of 42 correct answers or better on the 56 questions.

"If our young people can't find places on a map and lack awareness of current events, how can they understand the world's cultural, economic and natural resource issues that confront us?" John Fahey, president of the National Geographic Society, said in a statement.

National Geographic is convening an international panel of policy makers and business and media leaders to find ways to improve geographic education and to encourage interest in world affairs, the society said.

Other findings from the survey:

_Thirty-four percent of the young Americans knew that the island used on last season's "Survivor" television show was located in the South Pacific, but only 30 percent could locate the state of New Jersey on a map. The "Survivor" show's location was the Marquesas Islands in the eastern South Pacific.

_When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the United States, only California and Texas could be located by a large majority of those surveyed. Both states were correctly located by 89 percent of the participants. Only 51 percent could find New York, the nation's third most populous state.

_On a world map, Americans could find on average only seven of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89 percent of the Americans surveyed could find their own country on the map.

_In the world map test, Swedes could find an average of 13 of the 16 countries. Germans and Italians were next, with an average of 12 each.

_Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean.

_Although 81 percent of the surveyed Americans knew that the Middle East is the Earth's largest oil exporter, only 24 percent could find Saudi Arabia on the map.

The international survey was conducted for the National Geographic by RoperASW. The results are based on face-to-face interviews with at least 300 men and women aged 18 to 24 in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, Britain and the United States.

The questionnaires were in the local language, but the content was universally the same.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: education; geography
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Not mentioned here is the fact the Europeans had extreme difficulties pointing out east-European countries. Where's the world coming to? what world? where?
1 posted on 11/20/2002 11:50:02 AM PST by anguish
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To: anguish
Apples and oranges. Just ask any of those "smart" Swedes to pick out 16 named states in a map of the United States.
2 posted on 11/20/2002 11:52:29 AM PST by Nataku X
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To: anguish
Only 89 percent of the Americans surveyed could find their own country on the map.

There is no excuse for this. I would hope a kindergarner could do this.

3 posted on 11/20/2002 11:58:34 AM PST by Hodar
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To: Nakatu X
I don't think that the Swedes would do very well, you're right.

On the other hand, I fear that American students wouldn't do very well on that quiz either... ;)

4 posted on 11/20/2002 11:59:11 AM PST by general_re
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To: Nakatu X
This is not new. I was talking to one New Yawker about his plans after his tour was up. He was going out West. Upon further questioning he admitted to maybe going across the Hudson into New Jersey. He thought we had all kinds of combat experience fighting the indians. He was fascinated with truck driving school. Up to that time he never had an opportunity to drive. There was no space in Manhattan to learn.
5 posted on 11/20/2002 11:59:31 AM PST by meenie
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To: anguish
Young Americans flunk Geography because it's not taught in elementary schools or in high schools unless taken as an elective. It used to be required in elementary school.
6 posted on 11/20/2002 12:01:03 PM PST by stanz
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To: anguish
It's unfortunate, but Geography is a very boring subject to the vast majority of the population. If it doesn't relate to pop culture, most people could care less.

Not much has changed since the 60's, however, when almost no one could locate Viet Nam on a globe. You would be absolutely APPALLED at the percentage of the general population that has never left their own state - nor would know in which direction to head in order to leave. My wife the teacher has had SOME classes in her career with as many as a THIRD of the students in them that have NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE NASHVILLE.

Closed minds have very small, enclosed worlds.

Michael

7 posted on 11/20/2002 12:02:50 PM PST by Wright is right!
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To: anguish
My ninth grade history teacher, a high-school baseball coach in reality, could not find Germany on the world map...a world map identifying the main participants during W.W.II. I died laughing. I told my parents about that; they made a stink with the Principal...the Principal asked my parents to put in a private school "if it was so important to them that I know where Germany is on the map."

My parents promptly put me and my sisters in private school.

8 posted on 11/20/2002 12:05:41 PM PST by USMMA_83
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To: Wright is right!
Well stated. I have met several people who have never traveled more than 200 miles from their birthplace. And a good percentage of them are in their mid-50's. BTW, flaming Dems at the same time.... coincidence?
9 posted on 11/20/2002 12:06:31 PM PST by Hodar
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To: anguish
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
-Ambrose Bierce, writer (1842-1914)
10 posted on 11/20/2002 12:06:51 PM PST by DSHambone
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To: anguish
Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean.

So we won that one, right?

The reason kids can't find these places is no one asks them to in school. My guess is that if you broke the kids out into public school, private school, and home schooled children, the percentage of correct answers would soar for the latter two.

11 posted on 11/20/2002 12:07:40 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: general_re
ask swedes to pick out their own provinces. that's the relevant comparison.
12 posted on 11/20/2002 12:08:02 PM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: anguish
Ask young people to pick out Iraq on a map of the Middle East, and only 13 percent can locate it

It is my hope that one day noone will be able to find Iraq on the map. LOL
13 posted on 11/20/2002 12:08:04 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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Do you know why Iraq is important in terms of world history?
14 posted on 11/20/2002 12:09:19 PM PST by USMMA_83
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Oh, you want relevant comparisons. In that case, we're really screwed ;)
15 posted on 11/20/2002 12:10:23 PM PST by general_re
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To: Nakatu X
shouldn't be hard for European students! We all had excellent Geographie lessons at school!
16 posted on 11/20/2002 12:10:37 PM PST by janette
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To: USMMA_83
Do you know why sour cream has an expiration date?
17 posted on 11/20/2002 12:11:18 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: anguish
Note: 29% of Americans, and 30% of total respondents, could not find the PACIFIC OCEAN.

Never mind Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, specific U.S. states; how can you miss the Pacific Ocean? If you point randomly at blue things on a world map you're fairly likely to get it right ...

18 posted on 11/20/2002 12:11:58 PM PST by No.6
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To: general_re
Good point. ;)

However, it's annoying how Europeans gloat that we're so culturally ignorant compared to them. We had a German guest professor came in a couple of weeks ago and sack us (those few of us that weren't H1-B Indians, that is) for not knowing more about European politics/affairs and so on. (Note: this was supposed to be a lecture on M2MI, not European politics.)

Either way, they're snobbish shiznit wussies. I'd almost compare living in Europe & knowing about European countries to living in the USA & knowing about states.
19 posted on 11/20/2002 12:11:59 PM PST by Nataku X
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Yeah...thought as much....
20 posted on 11/20/2002 12:12:44 PM PST by USMMA_83
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