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Man Implicates Seagal in Probe: FBI Arrests Clinton Private Investigator Pellicano
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Posted on 11/22/2002 3:34:52 PM PST by jimbo123

Man Implicates Seagal and Pellicano in Probe

Fri Nov 22, 8:34 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A man charged with threatening a reporter who was investigating an alleged Mafia extortion plot against Steven Seagal told an FBI informant the actor was behind the threat, court documents show.

Alexander Proctor allegedly said in secretly recorded conversations that he was hired to carry out the threat by Anthony Pellicano, a private detective to the stars. FBI agents said Proctor told the informant Seagal hired Pellicano to threaten Los Angeles Times reporter Anita Busch.

"He wanted to make it look like the Italians were putting the hit on her so it wouldn't reflect on Seagal," Proctor, 59, told the informant, according to a search warrant affidavit filed by FBI agents who later searched Pellicano's office.

Pellicano was arrested Thursday in connection with what appeared to be explosive materials found during the search, said FBI spokesman Matt McLaughlin. He was expected to appear before a federal magistrate Friday.



An attorney for Seagal told the Los Angeles Times that his client had no involvement in the threat.



"This uncorroborated allegation by someone arrested is pure fiction and is nothing more than a transparent attempt to divert attention from himself and the real perpetrators," said attorney Martin R. Pollner, who represents Seagal. "This is part of an unrelenting campaign to disparage Mr. Seagal and reads like a bad screenplay."

A federal law enforcement source also told the newspaper that "at this time, other than Proctor's uncorroborated statements, there is no independent evidence that Seagal was involved in the threat made to the reporter."



Prosecutors said Proctor smashed Busch's windshield in June and left a dead fish with a long-stemmed rose in its mouth on the car along with a sign reading "STOP," according to a federal grand jury indictment.



Proctor was charged with interference with commerce by threats of violence, which carries a maximum prison sentence of 20 years. He has pleaded innocent.

According to court documents, Proctor told the informant he owed Pellicano about $14,000 and agreed to intimidate Busch for $10,000. Proctor allegedly told the informant he was supposed to "blow up" Busch's car as a warning so she would stop reporting about Seagal. There is no indication in court documents that Proctor ever met with Seagal.

The Los Angeles Times published several stories earlier this summer about the arrest of Seagal's former business partner, Julius Nasso, for his alleged role in a multimillion-dollar extortion scheme against the actor. Federal prosecutors in New York said they had a tape of Nasso and a Gambino crime family member plotting the shakedown.

Last month, Nasso's attorney alleged in a court document that Seagal might have been involved in the threat against Busch and that it could reflect on the actor's credibility as a witness.

Meanwhile, the FBI said its informant in the case was facing criminal charges at the time he agreed to cooperate in the Proctor investigation.


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To: piasa
He only played one in a movie, that's it.
61 posted on 11/23/2002 10:19:02 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: 4Freedom
I'm just saying that there's a difference between using Aikido techniques on a sound stage to make a character look tough, and using Aikido in a street fight or a tournament to overthrow an opponent. In the latter, there are no rehearsals or retakes. And the opponents aren't union stuntmen trained to pull punches so the "star" looks good.
62 posted on 11/23/2002 10:34:11 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack
I'm just saying that there's a difference between using Aikido techniques on a sound stage to make a character look tough, and using Aikido in a street fight or a tournament to overthrow an opponent. In the latter, there are no rehearsals or retakes. And the opponents aren't union stuntmen trained to pull punches so the "star" looks good.

Amen! Not to mention that in real life when your enemies know you are good with your hands, they just snipe you from 100 yards away in the bushes and you never see it coming.

Hard to parry a .223.

63 posted on 11/23/2002 10:45:52 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
He played an exSEAL in a bad movie about caucasian terrorists (they are so common) hijacking a battleship. That's as close as he came to being a SEAL.

Yep, that's what I figured. I thought I saw him make a claim that he was a SEAL on a talk show awhile back, but it was years ago..

64 posted on 11/23/2002 10:47:29 AM PST by FormerLurker
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To: 4Freedom
His martial art is Aikido, isn't it?

Not exclusively. In the real world, Segal looks well outside Aikido for serious personal defense.

-archy-/-

65 posted on 11/23/2002 10:50:28 AM PST by archy
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To: Travis McGee
Hard to parry a .223

See link in post #25, above.

-archy-/-

66 posted on 11/23/2002 10:53:34 AM PST by archy
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To: struggle
...Segal also speaks osaka-ben Japanese like I and my wife.

Yeah, but does he follow the Kintetsu Buffaloes?


67 posted on 11/23/2002 11:23:45 AM PST by archy
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To: Travis McGee
What happens over a period of time is that the Karate stles begin to merge in the higher belts. When the Japanese conquered Okinawa they forbid the Okinawan to have weapons lest they revolt. The Okinawans learned to use agricultural implements as weapons. The Nunchaku actually began as implements for husking grain. They've become specifically designed for martial use and have spread throughout the martial arts world. The same with the scei, the butterfly knife, the kendo pole and whatever. Hence, Bruce Lee became an expert in nunchucks and you can see the Okinawan influence in Seagal's use of long knives and certain hand movements.

My own instructor, Soo Young Cha, was Korean. In the early '50s he and General Choi set out on a program to train and toughen up the Korean Army. Eventually, every Korean army officer was to be required to have a black belt. They devised a new system of martial arts. They began with Sho Shin Do which was an older form of Korean Karate. Cha went throughout Asia to study with the great masters, including Oyama of Japan. He brought back the best from various places then he and General Choi created Tae Kwan Do. At that point in one year Mr. Cha won the Korean, Taiwan, Tokyo, Okinawan, and a few other places Karate championships, becoming all-Asian champion. What you obtain at top levels is a synthesis in the best people.

Cha had his opinions. He discouraged study of areas such as nunchucks in his students, saying if your Tae Kwan Do was good, you didn't need such trivial items. That's easy to say when you are an 8th or 9th degree black belt.

In Korea he once had three guys attack him with guns in an attempt to kill him. Before thay could pull the triggers he disarmed them and knocked them on their asses.

He was know for his air break. You could throw concrete blocks in the air and he would shatter them with a judo chop. The means concrete, not porous cinder block. When it was captured on film it looked like they were being hit with a 30-06. He'd do the same with regular small ceramic building block. I had a picture of him shattering stacks of concrete and thick roofing tiles with his head. It looked like the stuff was being hit by a cannon.

But we all age. For a while during the 80s he was afflected with a severe kidney ailment. There is no way he could do what he once did. Neither can Steven Seagal. He will find that out.

68 posted on 11/23/2002 11:28:12 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
And I have the age problem myself. There was a time I could kick six feet in the air flat footed. Today I would be lucky to hit someone's shins.
69 posted on 11/23/2002 11:31:50 AM PST by RLK
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To: 4Freedom
I didn't know about those two fighters you mention. Seagal hasn't been tested in a full contact ring, with rules, or a bar fight with the best bar fighters. We only know that he's good, not that he's the best.
70 posted on 11/23/2002 12:35:14 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: eastforker
Here's the deal on Seagal. He got started making pictures with a pharmacist turned producer from Brooklyn/Staten Island. This guy, Julius Nasso, is connected up to his chin.
The $$$ they got started with came from guess who? When SS got too big for the relationship and struck out without JN the bent nose boys imposed a tax of $150k per picture. The FEDS called it extortion and JN is awaiting trial. SS learned the hard way who's really tough.
71 posted on 11/23/2002 12:43:54 PM PST by wtc911
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To: jimbo123
Nixon had "Deep Throat" and Clinton had his own ahem, "Deep Throat"
72 posted on 11/23/2002 2:19:30 PM PST by SSN558
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To: archy
Nice. Is he against gun ownership for the rest of us?
73 posted on 11/23/2002 2:33:07 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: IronJack
No argument there. The Dojo and the street are two different things also for that matter.
74 posted on 11/23/2002 2:37:39 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 185JHP
Seagal hasn't been tested that we know about, but I'll bet he's had some dust-ups. I'd say he can handle himself. Think he had to prove himself a couple of times in Japan?

Dan Inosanto is a master of Filipino Kali. It's a great martial art. It's the martial art I'd pick for the United States, if I had to pick just one.

It's very weapons oriented. Other martial arts introduce you to weapons after you've been studying for 2 years and have attained a black belt. Kali starts you right off with rattan sticks, then machetes and other edged weapons almost overnight.

Everyone (conservative) in America should know how to pick up a stick and wale on (a liberal) an attacker or intruder. It's good cardiovascular exercise, too.

It has its share of empty handed techniques, kicks, take-downs, choke-holds and submissions, too.

That stick fight they had in that bar is a basic Siniwali drill that you'll see entire classes practicing just as fast and flashy as that anywhere they teach Kali.

In a real fight you'd be trying to hit your opponent's hands and the rest of his body as opposed to the stick being the primary target.

If you did that in practice, practice would be over real quick. ;^)

75 posted on 11/23/2002 3:19:03 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: FormerLurker
It's typical for wannabees to say something like "I used to train with SEALs (or Delta or whoever) which may striclty be true, on a one day demonstration, or with the SEALs who were extras on a movie etc.

Then they take that to "I used to be with the SEALs", which later is recalled as "he was a SEAL."

76 posted on 11/23/2002 3:19:28 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: jimbo123
Pellicano is a member of the Clinton Secret Police Goon Squad who was involved in trashing Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers.

I remember the name..he does have a better class of clients this time

77 posted on 11/23/2002 3:23:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RLK
I think that I don't entirely agree about the merging of styles at the top, and I believe Aikido is superior because it does not depend on kicking 6 feet high, or being able to smash concrete.

Those type skills require a certain youth, and constant training, while the relaxed and reactive circular parrying and locking and throwing styles like Aikido are effective years after training, even when older. They become relexive, so that an unexpected attack (a sucker punch) is dealt with from deep instinctive memory without warming up, stretching, getting into a stance and so on.

Plus, against mulitple opponents, Aikido is much less energy draining. High output styles like TKD leave one quickly exhausted when facing multiple opponents who are cagey in their attacks.

Just MHO, your mileage may vary.

78 posted on 11/23/2002 3:27:55 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: jimbo123
Didn't Seagal's ex-wife Kelly LeBrock of the movie "Weird Science" divorce him because he used her as a punching bag? I always wondered what his voice was like if he would drop the "whisper" level. In one of his movies (can't remember which one), only for a couple of syllables did he drop it and his voice sounded so like Michael Jackson high pitch that I ended up laughing so that I couldn't take the movie seriously after that.
79 posted on 11/23/2002 4:18:46 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: Travis McGee
High output styles like TKD leave one quickly exhausted ..

Not to mention that the kicks are only effective at the optimal turning radius or distance. I've been studying about 5 years, first in tkd and gracie jujitsu, more recently in tai chi.

Tai chi and akido are both "internal;"they train timing and balance over strength and technique. It takes much longer to learn these techniques, but they can be assimilated into harder styles. Young students should probably learn basic self defense first anyway; scars and krav maga are both effective distillations.

Why do I like internal arts? They teach you to keep your head. Many assaults, or invasions, are not physical;it's usually about someone crowding you out or trying to intimidate. I think the internal arts sensitize a person ,psychologically as well as physically, to both kinds of insult. One last thing: these arts are more "literate;" they've been around longer and have been extensively documented. That sort of thing becomes important once you round 40 and your knees start to creak.

80 posted on 11/23/2002 4:55:09 PM PST by tsomer
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