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To: amom; JudyB1938; Lion's Cub
http://www.courttv.com/casefiles/oklahoma/documents/hearing1.html

The following are excerpts from a complete transcript of the preliminary hearing of Timothy McVeigh, held April 27, 1995 in Oklahoma City. The hearing established that there was probable cause to hold McVeigh over for trial for the bombing of a federal office building on April 19, 1995.

WITNESSES:

JON HERSLEY(FBI Agent)

Q. In your review of the surveillance photos, did you find any surveillance photos of that parking lot across the street from the Murrah Building?

A. Yes.

Q. Okay.

A. You characterized that as my review of the photographs. I was shown those particular photographs by Agent Lamar.

Q. Have you been shown a photograph of that particular parking lot, sir, across the street from the Murrah Building that includes the speeding Mercury in the photograph?

A. We don't know for sure yet. Those photographs are not

real clear. They are taken from a pretty good distance away. There appears to be a light-colored car in the very vicinity where this witness testifies -- or provides the information was speeding away from. We are not able to determine yet if that is in fact the yellow Mercury.

Q. Can you clearly tell in the photographs that you have seen or have you been advised that you can clearly tell in the film the time of the explosion?

A. I'm not sure I understand your question.

Q. Well, I don't know how to -- can you tell in the film or the photographs when the explosion occurs?

A. The film that I viewed was before the explosion. I did not view the entire film. The pictures that were shown to me were before the explosion.

Q. The pictures that you saw of that particular parking lot -- now I'm talking about the parking lot across the street from the Murrah Building --

A. Right.

Q. -- in a northerly direction, that parking lot, there is film of that parking lot prior to the time of the explosion?

A. Yes.

Q. Correct?

A. Yes.

Q. Is it time-stamped so that you can tell a particular time of day on the 19th of April that that camera is viewing, scanning that parking lot?

A. Yes.

Q. Can you tell me where that particular camera was located?

A. I believe that particular camera was located on the apartment building there that we have been speaking of.

Q. So those were some more pictures from the Regency?

A. Yes, those are the pictures from the Regency.

Q. So the camera from the Regency -- is this the camera at the very top of the Regency Tower?

A. I don't know the exact location of the camera, but it kind of scans that whole area there, is what has been represented to me. It scans in front of the Tower building and also over towards the parking lot.

14 posted on 11/23/2002 3:44:38 AM PST by honway
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A. Yes, there was another individual that observed the Ryder Truck on Harvey. I believe it was on Harvey or Hudson, also not too long before the actual bomb.

Q. Was this a male or a female, sir?

A. I believe a male. There may have been two individuals at that location. I know there was at least one male that observed the Ryder Truck and the occupants of the Ryder Truck. That person also advised that the individual in the truck closely resembled the individual depicted in composite one.

Q. Did you tell me he saw occupants of a Ryder Truck and there were more than one?

MR. GARLAND: Objection. The only person on trial at this hearing is Mr. McVeigh. It doesn't matter whether there were two or a hundred people in that truck as long as there was somebody representing Mr. McVeigh there. It is discovery and totally outside the scope of this hearing.

MR. COYLE: May I respond? I think it is important to see if we distinguish it as the same truck or not. I think it is very important to the credibility of the witnesses and credibility of the evidence and what they saw as to whether or not the next person saw three or five or six or --

THE COURT: Objection overruled. Go ahead.

A. This witness advised that there were two individuals in the truck. The individual resembling Mr. McVeigh was the driver.


15 posted on 11/23/2002 3:47:35 AM PST by honway
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