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Outside view: Emerging Democrat minority
UPI ^ | 11/23/2002 | Horace Cooper

Posted on 11/23/2002 7:24:42 PM PST by hitthefan

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To: hitthefan
"Married women favored the Republicans by 10 points on election day." (UPI)

ALL nonminority women - outside the northeast, urban Midwest, and Kalifornia - do.

For Bush to have won heavily-black Southern states like 1/3-black South Carolina by 16 points (and numerous others), there's no mathematical way any substantial share of nonminority women could have voted Democratic.

21 posted on 11/23/2002 9:23:35 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: jocon307
Expect it, and ignore it!

Ignore it? I plan to rejoice in it, fight it, mock it, and hopefully bury it.
22 posted on 11/23/2002 9:33:11 PM PST by polemikos
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To: hitthefan
"find more enthusiastic and photogenic messengers"

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

23 posted on 11/23/2002 9:33:28 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: patriciaruth
"that embraces godless liberal positions "

I have come to the conclusion with you that philosophically the democrats are dead and the new debate is between libertarian and conservative thought (reflected in Republican vs Libertarian Party), but libertarians do not embrace the same liberal "godless positions". It isn't the libertarians who are stopping the ten commandments or Christmas creches, and there are plenty of Christian libertarians, myself among them. Most libertarians are Constitutionalists who are just fine with there being active reference to God in political debate. They just wouldn't codify it.

24 posted on 11/23/2002 9:37:37 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Nick Danger
Re: "White men nationally gave the GOP a 20-point margin and the trend looks likely to increase rather than contract. "

As a white man growing up in this country with Mr. Rogers in the morning, Donahue in the afternoon, and Alan Alda at night, is it any wonder anyone knows what masculinity really is? Am I to tell my kids to look to clinton and gore on how to be a man?

Bush Rocks.

25 posted on 11/23/2002 9:38:04 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Re: "centrist" initiatives such as the DLC are beginning to look like Trojan Horses

Like the DLC clinton taking up gays in the military as a signature issue the moment he got power ?

26 posted on 11/23/2002 9:41:01 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: hitthefan
Congratulations on a Great Post!!

This is clear, strong, and well-written.

"(Horace Cooper is a senior fellow with the Centre for New Black Leadership.)"

I am going to be on the lookout for this writer.
Thanks
28 posted on 11/23/2002 10:13:01 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: hitthefan
Issues such as their attacks on the Boy Scouts, support for needle exchange in the inner city, and a reflexive hostility to U.S. military action are part and parcel of the modern Democratic party.

This reminds me of a great SNL skit from the '88 Presidential campaign - "Dukakis After Dark".

The premise of the skit is that late in the campaign Dukakis decides rather than spending his remaining funds on a useless campaign commercial, he'd rather hold a Hef-style party and invite all his liberal friends. One telling exchange goes as follows -

Lloyd Bensen - "I don't get it, why don't people like us?"

Dukakis - "Well Lloyd, we represent unpopular and discredited views".

The funniest part was Joan Baez's song which sums up everything you need to know about modern liberalism...

Unilateral disarmament,
Abortion on demand,
We'll take your guns away
And bury them in the sand
Free needles for the addicts
And condoms for the kids,
We won't hold criminals responsible for anything they did
who's to say what's right and wrong or anything's a sin
All that really matter is the wars we lose or win...

At this point he cuts her off - but the ending is the kicker
He says - " That just about does it for the campaign. You know, I think the one thing that really hurt us is the fact that Reaganomics works. It really does. I mean, aren't you better off than you were eight years ago? I know I am. "

A (somewhat inaccurate) transcript is here

29 posted on 11/23/2002 10:15:32 PM PST by garbanzo
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To: hitthefan
I personally think that the real lesson to be learned from this swing by so many people from Democrat to Republican over the past 30 years is that it could happen again. And if the Republicans don't decide who they are and how they got where they are, those of us who were raised in Democrat households but swapped over to Republican when the Republicans became conservative are perfectly willing to swap again to whomever will take up the conservative banner. Unless and until the Republicans grow a spine and start actually standing up for the conservative people who put them in office, I will continue to consider myself an independant who votes Republican ... for now.
30 posted on 11/23/2002 10:53:28 PM PST by SWake
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To: hitthefan
If all you think about is killing babies...Vote Democrat.

If all you think about is your Gayness....Vote Democrat.

If you hate anything religious, especially Christian...Vote Democrat.

31 posted on 11/24/2002 5:03:33 AM PST by Claire Voyant
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To: hitthefan
While these and similar issues are a large cause of the public's alienation with the Democratic party, reversing course may not be the best option. Critics of the DLC and other "centrists" within the party rightly charge that if given the choice between the GOP and the GOP, voters will elect the GOP every time.

Gotta love this guy, this piece is spot on!

32 posted on 11/24/2002 8:57:35 AM PST by Darling Lili
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To: hitthefan
Got to bookmark this!
33 posted on 11/24/2002 10:23:06 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: hitthefan
Ha! And, their solution is to be even more liberal.
34 posted on 11/24/2002 10:29:17 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Got to bookmark this!

Me too, this is awfully sweet. I can't wait for 2004!!!!

35 posted on 11/24/2002 12:57:07 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: ChadGore
Like the DLC clinton taking up gays in the military as a signature issue the moment he got power ?...yeah, exactly like that - one more betrayal by the "centrist" 'rats....
36 posted on 11/24/2002 3:53:50 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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