Posted on 11/23/2002 10:32:30 PM PST by mjp
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:01:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
LONDON (AP) -- One of the three primary films of the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy is being restored, its owners said Friday, the 39th anniversary of his death.
The "Muchmore film," as it is known, will be remastered with digital technology that will stabilize it and restore scratched and damaged images, Associated Press Television News said in London.
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Oswald's guilt and involvement is not an established fact. There was no trial. Oswald was shot before a trial could be held.
Guess all this must have slipped by the CNN editors (/sarcasm).
The umbrella man is known.
A trial is not the only way to establish the facts.
Way back in the early days of FR (back when some folks included sound files on some of the threads, or shortly thereafter) I discovered Rivero's site via some of the postings he did here. I remember, that his site contained a picture taken of the motorcade, with the Depository in the background. This showed, allegedly, that Oswald was standing in the crowd, by the front door of the Depository.
Has this photo ever been debunked? Was it a cut and paste job from a previous picture of Oswald? Has anyone ever taken that photo and made a digital analysis of it?
I would post it, but it was stored on my old HD which went kaboom about a year ago. I'm not sure if the graphic has a name (such as "Oswald by door", or whatever), or whether it can be referenced by the photographer's name.
So, if anyone has any information about that picture, I'd appreciate the skinny on it. -- Thanks.
A woman named Beverly Oliver claimed to be the Babushka lady, but made so many other bizzare claims that the HSCA decided not to use her as a witness.
The photo being referred to showing "Oswald" on the steps is a commonly available AP photo by Jim Altgens. The man standing on the steps is Book Depository employee Billy Lovelady, who testified that he was among the employees watching the motorcae. 5 other Book Depostitory workers testified that the man was Lovelady. Even with this Warren Commission evidence, the HSCA re-examined the photo and re-pronounced it as Lovelady. (Interestingly, this photo also shows the secret servicemen on the back of Kennedy's limo looking behind over their shoulders at the Book Depository, and up, suggesting that the shots came from there.)
Bantam books in 1979 issued the report (without the 12 accompanying volumes of Hearings and Appendicies) and I suggest anyone with doubts about Communist nut-job's Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt read it, or Gerald Ford and John R. Stiles's Portrait pf the Assassin. Posner's more recent Case Closed (Random House, 1993) deals with subsequent tin-foilers such as Lifton.
Rest in peace, JFK and patrolman officer J.D.Tippit, both killed by Oswald.
Wanna bet? The poor "babushka lady" probably vanished along with her film, as did so many other eyewitnesses on Nov. 22nd.
A trial is not the only way to establish the facts.
Well... no, but in the case of any charge against Oswald, it is kind of a minimum... Or don't you think?? ;-)
The umbrella man is known.
No, one person admitted to being the Umbrella Man, but his statements of his actions did not match the actions of the Umbrella Man in the photographic records. So the Umbrella Man is not known, at least with any certainty.
Never proven in court (kind of important).
What is undisputed:
(1) anyone is innocent until proven guilty;
(2) a trial is the only way to prove guilt of any individual; and
(3) Oswald was killed while in custody and before any trial.
There is a lot of misinformation about the assassination, false assumptions, false reporting, and false analysis.
Some of it is so bad it is difficult to believe that it is not deliberate.
Also there are emotional undercurrents among those who were alive at the time of the assassination. Some people let their emotions cloud their analytical abilities in regards to the assassination.
The HSCA was largely compromised and underwent a change of staff during its tenure as a result.
Ford was and is a CIA supporter.
Posner and McAdams generally don't have any credibility among JFK assassination researchers (sorry, please don't shoot messenger, just do web searches to find problems with their stuff; there's a lot).
I very much agree with that. I was born after it happened, but I've been interested in it since a loooong junior-high debate at the time of the HSCA (I had to prove the Warren Comission did not do a thorough job and the HSCA was necessary--I won, BTW, though if you asked me today I'd disagree). I've tried to read the "best" of both sides; I've been to the assassination site when I went to Dallas for a wedding.
I find arguing the Kennedy Assassination is a bit like arguing religion, it has turned into dogma (on both sides) and facts slide off dogma like blood off a latex glove.
A trial would have been great, but I think the truth can be arrived at without a trial. Sometimes despite it, as in the case of OJ Simpson. I believe Hitler ordered the Holocaust, but he never stood before the judges at Nuremburg. Brutus and Cassius killed Julius Caesar. And Oswald, driven by his own politics and personal demons, killed Kennedy and Tippit. Of course people are innocent until proven guilty, in the eyes of the law, but I'm allowed to exercise my own judgement based on the preponderance of evidence. I've met highly intelligent people, who also have no personal axe to grind, who believe otherwise, and while it mystifies me a bit they're every bit as free to draw their own conclusions as I am.
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