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To: cornelis
missed pinging you in the first round

Thanks cornelis. I noticed your post yesterday but haven't had the chance to read it yet. I scanned it, though, to see if my main man Freddy the Nietz got a mention. I'm kind of surprised to see that Tucker wrote on this topic without dipping in the rich world of the Übermenshen.

50 posted on 11/26/2002 3:13:19 PM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
N. appears briefly in a later chapter, about Hegel's pride:

Thus the apologia for pride embraces a doctrine of the historical beneficence of moral evil. Moreover, Hegel verges on the complete and explicit "transvaluation of values" that Nietzsche later carried through. He argues that those who would morally condemn the great man's "master-passion" as a vice are mean-minded souls consumed, like Homer's Thersites, with envy and resentment. They are "psychological valets," exponents of "Thersitism." This suggests a morality of pride, which does not simply justify it by its historical fruits but glorifies in it for its intrinsic beauty and goodness. Nietzsche drew this radical conclusion when he propounded his "morality of self-glorification" based on "pride in oneself, a radical enmity and irony toward "selflessness." Out of it emerges the well known Nietzschean antithesis between "master-morality" and "slave-morality." The former is the morality of pride. The latter, which is said to have its source in envy and resentment, is Hegel's servile Thersitism broadened to include the whole of the Hebraic-Christian moral tradition.

Perhaps it is worth mentioning that the Ecclesiast (ch. 4) cites both the oppressor and the envious as examples vanity.

Here is an outline of the chapters in Tucker:

I. THE PHILOSOPHICAL BACKGROUND

1. The Self as God in German Philosophy

2. History as God's Self-Realization

3. The Dialectic of Aggrandizement

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II. FROM HEGEL TO MARX

4. Philosophy Revolts against the World

5. Metaphysics as Esoteric Psychology

6. Marx and Feuerbach

7. The Rise of Philosophical Communism

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III. ORIGINAL MARXISM

8. Working Man as World Creator

9. Alienation and Money-Worship

10. Communism-The Self Regained

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IV. MATURE MARXISM

11. Two Marxisms or One?

12. The New Materialism

13. Division of Labor and Communism

14. The World as Labor and Capital

15. The Myth and the Problem of Conduct

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Conclusion: Marx and the Present Age

In the Preface Tucker gives a brief interpretation of Marxism: "here [is] the economic interpretation of history and the conception of communism have as their setting a comprehensive scheme of thought that is philosophical in character. Its subject is man and the world--self-estranged man in an "alienated world" as Marx called it. The world revolution is conceived as the act by which estranged man changes himself by changing the world. Instead of being divided against himself as always in the past, man is to be restored to his human nature--and this is what Marx means by "communism."

I highly recommend the book.

51 posted on 11/26/2002 5:38:13 PM PST by cornelis
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