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Bush to Sign Homeland Security Bill
Fox News ^ | Monday, November 25, 2002 | AP

Posted on 11/25/2002 9:12:06 AM PST by Sparta

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To: sheltonmac
"....Okay, so if we want to dedicate ourselves to the "war" on terror, let's allow the government to conduct random, warrantless searches in our homes. After all, if we're not terrorists, and keep our noses clean, basically law-abiding citizens, why should we be afraid of such infringements?...."

I still think that Bush's greater goal is to dismantle the Socialist/Unionist protection racket that we currently call the Federal Government. And he's going to do it incrementally, and this is the first step. Mark my words.

Remember my words when you see him attempt to privatize many government functions and allow staffing with non-union people.

Why do you think the Dems howled so much over this?

He's going to further break the back of the Socialists' stranglehold on America.

101 posted on 11/25/2002 12:01:36 PM PST by Victor
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To: Sparta
I support President Bush 100%, yet reading some of the comments here I was reminded of something Benjamin Franklin said:
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin
"An Account of Negotiations in London for Effecting a Reconciliation Between Great Britain and the American Colonies" (22 Mar. 1775)

I hope, pray and trust President Bush isn't leading down the wrong path.
102 posted on 11/25/2002 12:19:56 PM PST by scripter
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To: scripter
I hope, pray and trust President Bush isn't leading down the wrong path.

I do too, but I don't all this power in Dasshole's, Hitlery's, or the Goron's hands.
103 posted on 11/25/2002 12:21:21 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Gal.5:1
someone, please post the exact Franklin quote on freedom/security...

Just saw your post. My post #102 may be what you're looking for.

104 posted on 11/25/2002 12:24:10 PM PST by scripter
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To: Sparta
I do too, but I don't all this power in Dasshole's, Hitlery's, or the Goron's hands.

A good perspective indeed.

105 posted on 11/25/2002 12:27:03 PM PST by scripter
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To: Sparta
Bush is no conservative and this proves it. To think that he actually asked for this bill.....
106 posted on 11/25/2002 12:35:20 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
In defence of Dubya, he was trying to co-op the Democrats who were calling for a more Stalinist version of this bill.
107 posted on 11/25/2002 12:37:24 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
he was trying to co-op the Democrats who were calling for a more Stalinist version of this bill.

He's done that alot. Generally it means he takes democrat positions and runs with them...what a genius....

108 posted on 11/25/2002 12:40:04 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Bump!!
109 posted on 11/25/2002 12:42:29 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
I hope you realize that I wasn't complimenting Bush. He's a democrat with an (R) next to his name.
110 posted on 11/25/2002 12:49:04 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
I know, I'm agreeing with you that Bush has compromised too much with the Democrats. But, what other choice do we have?
111 posted on 11/25/2002 12:51:51 PM PST by Sparta
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To: MeeknMing
Well, I see the Bush-Bshers have something to whine about today!
112 posted on 11/25/2002 1:00:24 PM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: Sparta
>>>But, what other choice do we have?

I suggest you, Demidogface and the other malcontents, move to another country, or better yet, start your own nation state. Both alternatives would appear to be, right up your alley!

113 posted on 11/25/2002 1:04:22 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: ppaul
There are no innocent citizens. Only citizens whom we have not caught breaking the laws yet.
114 posted on 11/25/2002 1:06:54 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Sparta; First_Salute
A sad day for freedom in America.

Indeed. Our individual responsibility for our own security has just been stolen by a collective in Washinton, DC.

After today, taking individual steps to protect ourselves, our families, and our neighbors will be "suspect".

As I predicted on Sept. 12th right here on FR, "Only Nixon could go to China. Only Bush could turn America into Amerika." For those of you in Rio Linda, I meant that if clinton had tried this, we FReepers would have been up in arms. But since one of "our guys" did it, it's OK, right?

For some reason, that Buffalo Springfield song has been going through my head lately. You gotta' stop - hey - look around...

115 posted on 11/25/2002 1:09:49 PM PST by snopercod
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To: Sparta
But, what other choice do we have?

How about keeping the promises made to shrink government?

116 posted on 11/25/2002 1:16:28 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Victor
"I still think that Bush's greater goal is to dismantle the Socialist/Unionist protection racket that we currently call the Federal Government. And he's going to do it incrementally, and this is the first step. Mark my words."

That's very optimistic of you, but what evidence have you seen to lead you to that conclusion? Bush's tax cut wasn't much of a cut, and it isn't even permanent. While running for office he promised us--and eventually delivered--one of the largest increases in education spending in recent history. He signed the Patriot Act into law. He signed Campaign Finance Reform. He increased federal farm subsidies. When he first took office his projected budget increased government spending faster than the rate of inflation. Bush's desire to cut back on government jobs and hire people from the private sector may cut down on some of the red tape, but it there is no guarantee that it will save the taxpayers any money. His plan for the so-called "privatization" of Social Security still calls for rigid federal restrictions on how our money can be spent or saved.

Simply noting how loud the Democrats complain about Bush's proposals is no indication of the merit of those proposals. You know as well as I that Democrats are always complaining about EVERYTHING. I would love to believe that Bush is going to do something about the size and cost of government, but everything he has said and done so far seems to indicate that he likes things just as they are. Besides, with the next presidential election less than two years away, you can be sure that he won't do anything to rock the boat between now and then.

119 posted on 11/25/2002 1:59:40 PM PST by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
I agree, With our current administrations goals on fighting terrorism we can only forsee larger government, higher taxes, and larger military spending.
120 posted on 11/25/2002 2:11:59 PM PST by JHrules
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