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Clearing the Air: Why we shouldn't call "Liberals" liberal...
Center for the American Founding ^ | 1995 | Balint Vazsonyi

Posted on 11/25/2002 4:06:46 PM PST by amtote

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To: amtote
They are Marxists and there ain't nothing liberal about em.
21 posted on 11/25/2002 4:57:12 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: segis
Hyeck bump.

I suggest calling them all "Massa", since they want to own us. They're the Massa Race. They're easily identified: they're the ones going around the office collecting cash to buy cards and flowers for so-and-so, using your money to take the credit for a whopping good deed.

22 posted on 11/25/2002 4:59:02 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Gritty
In a nutshell, Nazis = Liberals, and today's Liberals stand not in the stead of American tradition, culture and law but the intellectual underpinnings of Marx and Hegel.

Which is very disturbing, indeed. It means that the country is fast approaching some very bad times, if things remain as they are in the spheres of Law, Art, and Education. If one really thinks, as the author has so eloquently put forth, that the American left (with the help of so-called 'moderate' Repubos) is taking us down a very similar road that was traveled by the late Soviet Union and the late Third Reich, then perhaps there is hope for the long run, since neither ofd those despotisms triumphed.

However, the demise of the former took nearly a century of misery and often bloodshed, and the latter exacted a horrendus price in terms of human life to end.

23 posted on 11/25/2002 5:15:55 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: amtote
Or "Bitches", as in," the extreme left bitches about everything."
24 posted on 11/25/2002 5:19:24 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: amtote
That's it, lets start using the nice PC language of the left so no one is insulted.
This is why the phrase "undocumented immigrant" is used instead of the correct term "illegal alien".
25 posted on 11/25/2002 5:23:40 PM PST by husky ed
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To: amtote
"The political wisdom of American voters may have provided timely relief from the pressures which had already built to danger levels along the fault lines. The field on which the debate occurs could now be leveling, but Dogmatists are still setting the terms of the debate, the verbal agenda in the battle for America's soul.

As difficult as this may be to digest, the ideology which stands for failure, suffering and death, and has shown nothing but contempt for all humanity, still possesses the capacity to represent itself as good, fair, loving and caring. This is why it is urgent to clear away the layers of misconception and disinformation which have come to hide the true foundations of so-called Liberalism in America. In this process, I chose to emphasize the connections with the Third Reich for a reason: Academia may have managed to legitimize Lenin, but no one in American public life, or in his right mind, would knowingly align himself with Hitler..

Other than that feeble ray of hope, the author does not offer any definitive way to reverse the trend. Does that mean we are doomed to repeat the history of those nations who never had any idea of what true liberty and individual freedom were? Is the latter enough to stem the tide of PC BS now engulfing the country? Will the good citizens finally tell the American left, including the main stream press, the corrupt judiciary and the declining education establishment that enough is enough?

26 posted on 11/25/2002 5:26:31 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: amtote
It's very hard to reclaim words once they are corrupted. Do you think that feeling "gay and frolicsome" will ever again have the innocent meaning it had in the early 20th century?

Maybe there is some hope with "liberal", though: in Europe "liberal" still retains its classical political meaning--free marketeer. There is a story of one European trying to enlighten another about American politics: "Oh, in America, 'liberal' means 'socialist'" he explained.

In Europe, of course, 'conservative' tends to have a more blood-and-soil or Church-and-crown feel than in America, where, quite frankly most conservatives are conserving what Europeans call 'liberal' (our Founding was 'liberal' in the European sense).

Of course, America's brief brush with socialism under its proper name (think Eugene Debs, the Wobblies and the "Progressives" who briefly controlled the Kansas legislature and mandated courses in Marxist political economy at the state's land-grant college) left such a bad taste in the body politic's collective mouth that American socialists have had to work under cover of euphemism to get elected outside of Vermont and Berkeley.

27 posted on 11/25/2002 7:13:01 PM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: amtote
Just for reference, I reserve the right to use "liberal" as a notation to not give "liberals" AKA lefties, fellow travellers or any other Anti-American socialists credit or acknowledgment by Capitalizing their names & organizations they work for or ascribe themselves to! As far as I am concerned they have lost all rights to associate in this Free Republic! This is a personal policy I have carried on for years, so all you English Majors out there, I try real hard to be correct in my verbage & punchuation so don't get your drawers in a knott; I'm just not as cultured as the rest of you Pearls of Wisdom, FYI!
28 posted on 11/25/2002 7:23:41 PM PST by wharfrat
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To: 45Auto

Will the good citizens finally tell the American left, including the main stream press, the corrupt judiciary and the declining education establishment that enough is enough?

I think you will find the 'Good Citizens' of america are voting with their listening and viewing habits. You heard the EX-Senate Majority Leader BLOW HIS STACK at rush limbaugh and other talk show celebrities. You have seen the ad hominem attacks on YOUR SITE from the leftists. They are going to try to shut you down with the 'fairness doctrine' and 'Campaign Finance Reform' and other tactics that conceal their goals behind a friendly incrementalist face. And a plethora of denials to those of us who are smart enough to connect the dots.

Dont look now, but here come the speech codes!

It shall be pronounced by the intellectual gurus that the name of Rush Limbaugh shall be erased from all of the records of the nation.

So Let It Be Written!

SO LET IT BE DONE!

29 posted on 11/25/2002 8:01:14 PM PST by Samurai_Jack
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To: Samurai_Jack
Main Entry: Ludd·ite
Pronunciation: 'l&-"dIt
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Ned Ludd, 18th century Leicestershire workman who destroyed machinery
Date: 1811
: one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest; broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change
- Luddite adjective
30 posted on 11/27/2002 3:26:07 PM PST by f.Christian
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