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To: Andy from Beaverton
In my area of NY, the Smart Growth proponents are also the clinton voters. I have long suspected that they are socialist elitists, since the last things on their list of "smart" plans are low income housing and discount department stores.

They espouse city living, but none of them are selling their cushy suburban houses to move back to the city and let someone else have a shot at their personal utopias.

The latest term, and by far the most frightening I've heard them promote, is "view shed" meaning that they want to control not only how land they do not own is disposed, but how it looks.

3 posted on 11/26/2002 2:52:34 AM PST by NYpeanut
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To: NYpeanut
The "smart growth" folks want to keep their tony enclaves gated from what they view as trailer park trash. That's why they support measures to keep the poor and minorities at a distance. Its just amazing how value conscious liberals can be when it comes to protecting all that expensive real estate of theirs from the rifraff of the world.
4 posted on 11/26/2002 2:56:28 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: NYpeanut
They espouse city living, but none of them are selling their cushy suburban houses to move back to the city and let someone else have a shot at their personal utopias.

I majored in city planning as an undergrad, although I never worked in the area. One reason is that I noticed all my professors who advocated planning away the private auto and forced living in planned communities driving away in their tanks out to their farms and large suburban homes after they finished teaching for the day. So instead, I went to work for an association for developers. The hypocrisy was mind-boggling to me.

21 posted on 11/26/2002 8:22:06 AM PST by twigs
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To: NYpeanut
The latest term, and by far the most frightening I've heard them promote, is "view shed" meaning that they want to control not only how land they do not own is disposed, but how it looks.

Yep, that one's been hot here for 2-3 years. They want all the mountain ridges and sides protected, both because they are part of the watershed (like there is any place that's not in a watershed) and also because it's part of the view-shed, and benefits everyone. Since we own mountain land, my husband keeps saying he wants to start a movement to protect his "freedom-shed"!!!

It never ends, the left have incredible task persistence. They often win just by outlasting their opponenents...

46 posted on 11/26/2002 5:17:11 PM PST by Kay Ludlow
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To: NYpeanut
Believe me, viewshed is most dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Nps is trying to take my home because I will "pollute" the viewshed after a "scenic roadway" is built that only goes 10 miles and really goes nowhere! The land that I live on and own, has been owned for over 200 years!

In other words, we had the "viewshed" along time ago!!!!!! Please visit our website for the dangers of proposed viewsheds! http://www.newriverfriends.org

57 posted on 11/27/2002 4:13:55 PM PST by countrydummy
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