Roscoe, thanks for the links to the news articles. A picture is beginning to emerge on this dirtbag. More grist for the FR research mill .... :)
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Posted on 11/26/2002 12:38:40 PM PST by Neil E. Wright
McCrae's postings generated two responses from visitors to the site. One reader, named "jefe," wrote, "Well done. Send it to all the IMCs, media, outlets of communication and rage - wa-hoo."
Roscoe, thanks for the links to the news articles. A picture is beginning to emerge on this dirtbag. More grist for the FR research mill .... :)
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Now looking up the area code for Statesboro, GA, and you will find...ta-da----(770)
So I predict that Andrew McCrae, the shooter, is from Statesboro, GA. The one listed above at age 47 is probably his father.
That does not rule out the possibility of Georgia connections, but it does not appear to be connected to his Ohio parents.
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I can only think of two individuals who I never met personally for whom I held that much distaste and contempt, both of whom are now deceased, and both of whose deaths I celebrated, and either of whom I'd have been glad to have helped into their graves.
Though I've also run across a few others nearly as deserving, including two child murderers and one probable serial killer, they were at least out of circulation or under sufficient scrutiny to prevent further depredations, as is Mickel/McRae now. And I've been in and around the military long enough that I don't care to stand in line to use a latrine again.
But it's to be wished that the spiteful posters replying to *Andy*s postings had gotten the details right. Even before California went to lethal injection for the state-mandated death penalty, they never used the electric chair, but rather the green-walled gas chamber at San Quentin. But that's not how I'd care to see it done if the method were to be left to me to see justice done.
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I also hope that the FBI and other authorities will acknowledge what you've done. Unfortunately the FBI is loathe to give credit where credit is due. Private citizens are the most effective crime stoppers. That message needs to be broadcast far and wide.
I disagree. California already has a gas chamber, if disused. It was the use of cyanide gasses, as per those the Nazis used in the death camps, that was unsafe [to the executioners and prison staff, it's supposed to be unsafe to the condemned victim!] and which should have been upgraded.
The use of Nitrogen, an inexpensive and non-lethal gas that would present no risk to prison staff [our air is 78 percent nitrogen] or require special filtering or ventilation would do nicely; nearly ideal for the purpose. Though it won't support life and results in a few dozen industrial accidents annually when workers have entered confined spaces where it's displaced oxygen-bearing air, the deaths are not painful or horrific, as those from cyanide asphyxiation are. Those exposed to nitrogen gas overmixtures simply fall asleep without gasping or choking, as the body perceives no lack of breath, but as the oxygen content in the bloodstream dwindles, the brain shuts down system after system, eventually including respiration and cardiac activity, and finally brain function itself.
For those such as Mickel/McCrae who might not be deserving of such a restful end, it might be worthwhile to simply close the hatch and let him suffocate, using up his own air giving a final speech on his political views...which could then be erased, as he was. Alternately, leaving him in the sealed room for a loooong time while he starves should do it...and could be televised.
I'd think it much more fitting to just shoot him 3 times in the head, getting the same as officer Mobilo got. But remember, the constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishments...it has to be one, or the other, but not both.
And, of course, if such methodology is carried out frequently, as on those at Guantanamo for ionstance, than it can't be said to be *unusual*....
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It might be helpful to know where Andrew H. Mickel of the 101st Airborne at Ft. Campbell resided after he was discharged. He might well have had a buddy from the Pacific Northwest, a Ranger from the battalion at Ft Lewis, Washington perhaps, with interesting stories about the WTO protest demonstrations/riot in November of 1999.
Since the records for the Andrew Mickel at Ft Campbell indicate service from May 1998 until August 2001, it's not likely that he was there as a participant, unless perhaps he was on leave at the time. But service from May 1998 to May 2001 would indicate a 3-year enlistment; the extra 3 months from May 2001 to August 2001 may reflect *bad time* whil AWOL or otherwise absent, or some other personnel irregularity. Accordingly, possibly worth a look.
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Probably once news stories of court activities and legal matters so identify him. Even the FBI had ID'd him as McCrae to the cops in NH, and of course that was the name connected to his website activities. -archy-/-
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Do you by chance mean those protesters who were clad in military type op clothes with face masks. The ones who didn't look and act like the usual stoned renta maggot mob?
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Could have been. In addition to the National Guard personnel on standby, CNN reported 160 active-duty personnel, including Special Forces working with the FBI, and others, probably from nearby Ft. Lewis, WA, where the 2nd Ranger Batallion is stationed.
I could just see some GI pal telling McCrae war stories about setting up the protesters so the cops could beat them up....
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