[A_perfect_lady]

Doesn't the HSA also have a provision for arming airline pilots? I have to say, I like that....

As for this PATRIOT Act... if the ACLU hates it, it can't be all bad. I have the pdf and keep intending to read it.... guess I'd better....

[Southack]

"Doesn't the HSA also have a provision for arming airline pilots? I have to say, I like that...."

Yes, the Homeland Security Act arms pilots, and that's just one of the many reasons that the "pretend" conservatives (you know, the liberals who like to post on FR as if they are more conservative than Jesse Helms) hate it.

Another reason that the disruptors hate the HSA is that it explicitly BANS the creation of a National ID Card, one of their prime goals.

So you'll see and hear lots of rubbish from the disruptors about the Homeland Security Act, but all that does is expose the fakers from the true conservatives.

[FreeTheHostages]

" if the ACLU hates it, it can't be all bad "

I don't think it is. Parts of it are very good. Parts of it are constitutionally problematic. I think the courts will work this through. It's before a good judge, Judge Huvelle, and the DC Circuit is now a majority conservative. So these arguments will get a fair hearing.

If the ACLU is on the right side of any of these issues, all I have to say is that if you're playing pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey, 1 times out of 100 the first place the blinded person walks to will be the donkey. That doesn't make the blinded person insightful.