Posted on 11/29/2002 9:49:16 PM PST by knak
President Bush finds himself in a rare disagreement with conservatives in his party over his efforts to portray Islam as a peaceful religion that is not responsible for anti-American terrorism.
In a score of speeches since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the president has called for tolerance of Muslims, describing Islam as "a faith based upon peace and love and compassion" and a religion committed to "morality and learning and tolerance."
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Why should they? Has the KKK murdered and killed in a constant cycle for the past 1500 years? Are you implying that Christians support the KK and that our justice system doesn't prosecute the KKK for crimes? Do you know of some active KKK murderers or Terrorist?
It seems that some expect the peaceful Muslims to do the same on bin Laden.
Bin Laden is just a name. When he falls, there will be another willing to take his place, from your herds of "peaceful Muslims."
There were many murderes before him in Islam, in fact, about one a week in Israel is willing to die for Allah. About one a week is willing to murder innocent people.
But none of the "peaceful Muslims" seem very bothered by that. In fact, we know that your "peaceful Muslims" celebrate in the streets everytime another homocide is committed in the name of their god.
My maintenance man is peaceful. There is no moral justification for an open ended was on Islam.
It's unacceptable morally, politically and as a practical matter.
Personally, I have had many doubts about Dubya, his policies and his administration.. His approach to Islam isn't one of them however.
Your problem is that you are a liar. You will not find one post by me advocating any war with anyone. I have an opinion on that but it certainly has not been posted.
Your other problems is that you have been refuted by many people in many posts and you ignore each of them, all the while trying to brand people as something they are not.
My suggestion to you is this: No matter if you love the cult of Islam and it's followers, you should watch what you accuse people here of saying.
I think the Christian Right can think for itself. The chat rooms, internet forums and other such venues of the Christian right have been buzzing of talk regarding the comments of Bush and Powell long before MSNBC or ABC ever mentioned it.
And take some of your own advice.
It's free. :-)
Worth every penny.
:)
I don't see any special tratment of Muslims. Please expound.
"Its the religion of Islam that scares me."A better, and more exact statement would possibly be: "It is the extremist's version of Islam that scares me.", that's what scares me. The other 99% of Muslims do not.
"And I can say confidently that it was inspired by satan."
Imagine how easy it could be for someone else to say the same about the Church of the Latter Day Saints, or any other non-mainstream belief. Learn more about Islam before you go condemning all Muslims based on the actions of some radicals who are trying to goad a religious war between billions of people. The day that we declare war on Islam, we declare war on not only semites, but native-born Americans as well, not only that, but the majority of Muslims are in Indonesia, not in Arab countries.
"Knowing more about that faith scares me."
Beware propagandists from any side of an issue.
"There has been many horrible things done in the name of the Christian religion, but that doesn't mean it’s the real Christian church."
The very same can be said for Islam. The actions of the few are not representative of the many.
Thanks for the response.
When the Mormons start murdering innocent people and celebrating it, then you will have cause for concern.
The Muslim Bible commands Muslims to murder non-Muslims:
"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:40)
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)
That puts their religion in the antichrist status.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God:
and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7 ¶For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Translations of Qur'anic Verses by Abdullah Yusuf Ali:
Say: "Praise be to Allah Who begets no son and has no partner in (His) dominion: nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: Yea magnify Him for His greatness and glory!" 17: 111
Further that He may warn those (also) who say "Allah hath begotten a son": 18: 4
It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is. 19: 35
They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous! 19: 88/89
For it is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He should beget a son. 19: 92
No son did Allah beget nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods) behold each god would have taken away what he had created and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah (He is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him! 23: 91
He begetteth not nor is He begotten; 112: 3
Which one is right? The Koran, or the Word of God?
You shouldn't be thanking me, it was meant as a tremendous insult.
And as to my "lying" that's just you being shrill, splitting hairs and showing your ignorance.
There are many people here either outright calling for or implying the need for a war on Islam as a whole. They are no better than the problem they are addressing, imo.
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