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Loony 'chosen people' vow revenge (South Africa)
Mail & Guardian ^ | 30 November 2002 13:19 | Hannes de Wet and Mariette le Roux Hannes de Wet and Mariette le Roux

Posted on 11/30/2002 4:08:46 AM PST by Int

Loony 'chosen people' vow revenge

Hannes de Wet and Mariette le Roux Hannes de Wet and Mariette le Roux | Pretoria

30 November 2002 13:19

As police were rounding up suspected right-wing troublemakers in a countrywide swoop on Friday, a body purportedly representing such extremists threatened more violent attacks.

A statement issued under the logo of the Boeremag warned the festive season would see "revenge" attacks across the country.

The police were collating information on Friday afternoon from its "Operation Hopper" that included raids on 94 farms and other residences since 5am.

Those arrested so far included Gaye Derby-Lewis, wife of former Conservative Party MP Clive Derby-Lewis who is serving a life sentence for the 1993 murder of SA Communist Party leader Chris Hani. She is expected to appear in court on Monday.

The Boeremag said attacks prior and during the festive season would be part of what it dubbed Operation Elohiem of Revenge.

No explanation was given for the term "Elohiem". The word is Hebrew, and means "angels".

The organisation said its campaign would be stepped up because the ruling African National Congress refused to meet its demands.

"This operation entails countrywide revenge attacks prior to and during the false, worldly festive season," said a statement that reached Sapa by e-mail.

The Boeremag said its targets so far were chosen to ensure a minimum loss of life.

The organisation has been blamed for a recent rash of bomb blasts in Gauteng and KwaZulu-Natal.

It is also thought to have been behind a plot to overthrow the government, and 18 of its alleged members have been charged with treason and terrorism.

The Transvaal Agriculture Union and the Afrikaner Eenheidsbeweging warned the state on Friday against causing unnecessary panic in its moves to counter right-wing extremism.

The Democratic Alliance and New National Party welcomed the raids.

In Friday's statement, the Boeremag said the first phase of its operation was mostly a show of force. This was aimed, among others, at highlighting its demands for the release of supporters arrested for the alleged coup plot.

The organisation hinted state buildings would be among the targets it had in mind for the next phase of its operation, saying: "We call on all private businesses to remove themselves from state buildings."

The statement added: "The Boeremag will accept no responsibility for damage to the property of compatriots in the vicinity of state facilities."

The Boeremag accepted responsibility for attacks so far, saying these were the beginning of the end of the ANC government and the "oppression of the Boer nation".

In an apparent referral to a bomb blast earlier this month at the Grand Central Airport building housing the police airwing in Midrand, the statement accused the police of hiding facts about damage caused.

It claimed six helicopters and a Pilatus aircraft were destroyed in the attack.

"Are they silent about these facts so that the public should keep on believing the lie that everything is under control under the ANC circus?"

The statement said members of the Boeremag were not rightwingers or ultra-rightwingers.

"We introduce ourselves as fighters of the Holy Father and the Boer nation."

The statement was peppered with Bible quotes and references to holy revenge on behalf of "the chosen people". It said it would not tolerate "heathen temples" or trading on a Sunday. No names or contact numbers were given in the statement, signed off: "Krygers van die Boerevolk" (Warriors of the Boer nation).

TAU security manager Boela Niemann said there was something paranoid about the way the police were conducting their operation.

He claimed police arrested several union members for "offences" such as being in possession of a firearm licensed in a brother's name, and keeping a flare.

"Some of our people have been charged with serious offences but if you take a closer look these police are being paranoid," Niemann said.

"We are starting to suspect that the state is creating a perception of a threat that does not really exist."

Niemann said about 10 TAU members were questioned or arrested in the police swoop which began at 5am on Friday. All were released on bail, he said.

AEB leader Cassie Aucamp said: "We make an urgent call on the government not to press the panic button in its efforts to defuse a suspected right-wing plot."

Reiterating his party's condemnation of violence, Aucamp said excessive and unqualified state violence could fuel the fire of those seeking justification for misguided terror and sabotage.

Democratic Alliance safety and security representative Paul Swart said he hoped "Operation Hopper" would result in the arrest and conviction of those behind the bombs blasts. NNP representative Adriaan van Jaarsveld said these people probably included pre-1994 right-wing supporters who opposed political change.

Police expected to release more information on the outcome of Friday's raids over the weekend. - Sapa


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boers; southafrica

1 posted on 11/30/2002 4:08:46 AM PST by Int
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To: Int
The statement said members of the Boeremag were not rightwingers or ultra-rightwingers.

"We introduce ourselves as fighters of the Holy Father and the Boer nation."

The statement was peppered with Bible quotes and references to holy revenge on behalf of "the chosen people". It said it would not tolerate "heathen temples" or trading on a Sunday. No names or contact numbers were given in the statement, signed off: "Krygers van die Boerevolk" (Warriors of the Boer nation).

This warrants watching. Thanks for the post. Is the SA govt. setting the stage for pushing whites out of the country?

2 posted on 11/30/2002 6:25:06 AM PST by toddst
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To: toddst
It's working real well right next door ... why not?

For some time to come, most of africa will remain an experiment that failed.

3 posted on 11/30/2002 9:31:17 AM PST by norton
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To: toddst
Understand this where you live: Karl Rove feels the same way about repuds who favor secure borders and the english language as the thugs ruling S.A. feel about the Boers. If it is up to King Karl we will not be allowed any self defense as his future voters swarm over our homeland! Karl believes that the repuds should "purge the EXTREME right who don't want these fine people here". I bet he also wishes the pro-lifers and Christians could be banished. This man is a combo of Goebels and Bormann. Just beause he is putatively on our side doesn't make him any less of a mortal danger. Does anyone else think that the sudden onslaught of accusations against the CC was well timed to divert scrutiny away from Muslims and Hispanic illegals who just happen to figure prominently in Karl's future majority. I wish I could issue a Fatwah but I'll have to settle for a traitor alert!!!
4 posted on 11/30/2002 9:31:22 AM PST by Righty1
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To: norton; toddst
[Is the SA government setting the stage for pushing whites out of the country?]

It's working real well right next door ... why not?

With 2500 a week dying in Zim now, and that number likely to jump by an order of magnitude once the starvation deaths, anthrazx outbreaks and typhus tolls add to that of the ongoing AIDS epidemic, I think it quite likely that the munts running SA will make the same mistake. But unlike the former Rhodesians, the Boers won't wait a decade before unleashing their own operation *operation hatchet* on the continent.

And they may well have another little surprise to put in play available, as well....

-archy-/-

5 posted on 11/30/2002 11:32:33 AM PST by archy
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To: Righty1
I think that you give Karl too much credit for intelligence. In my opinion the man is simply too stupid to really understand what he is doing. He focuses on only one or two aspects of any phenomenon, and is simply unable to really conceive of the real dynamic interaction of all of the factors in human society.

He convinces people that he is bright, because he is probably very up on those one or two aspects on which he does focus--a variety of tunnel vision. But he misses the forest for the trees.

That he is dangerous, I will grant you. But do not suppose that he has some realistic scheme, to actually advance any particular agenda. A realist would realize that there is no future for Karl Rove, any more than for you or I, in the nightmare consequences of what he is promoting. There is no conceivable reason for the new "Americans" to embrace Karl Rove as their leader! Nor is it likely, in the coming social chaos--if this trend continues--that what remains of the old America will want to thank him.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

6 posted on 11/30/2002 11:33:01 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: archy
I have always thought that it was a tragedy that the South Africans gave up their nuclear weapons, and agreed to a consolidated "Democratic" State, in place of the diverse Nations that formerly shared the area that the world recognized as South Africa. (Forgive that somewhat garbled statement. For those who understand what Apartheid was really about--rather than the vicious slander of Afrikaner intentions, that has been taught as fact in Western Universities--all I am saying is that they abandoned Apartheid.)

As the targets of international hatemongers, it was imperative to have a first rate defense establishment. Hence their development of not only atomic weapons, but perhaps the best mobilie artilery system in the world at the same time. (The Afrikaners, going back before the Boer War have always liked maximum fire power.) They also were in the forefront of Laser research (one of the themes of an unpublished novel, that was the actual prequel to the one for which my site is named).

What is most striking in all of this, from our American perspective, is the fact which will only be fully appreciated by Americans who had a chance to spend some time in the Old South Africa, that the Afrikaner history is that which more closely parallels the American Settler experience than that of any other people in the world. If there is one foreign nation with which Americans can closely identify, without compromising the Washington/Jefferson policy of avoiding entanglements, it is that of the Afrikaner.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

7 posted on 11/30/2002 11:49:28 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Int
"Elohim" does NOT mean "angels."

It is often translated as "God" or "gods" in the English translations of the Bible.

The original meaning of the word is "celestials, extraterrestrials."

The Hebrew word for "angels" would be "malakhim".

8 posted on 11/30/2002 1:48:49 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Ohioan
I guess that you are saying that KR is a political savant? Then who is the puppet master? Does GW even know that he is a tool of the same gray conspirators that ruined his father's presidency? Like the Afrikaners I am having a hard time seeing any way out from here.
9 posted on 11/30/2002 9:17:56 PM PST by Righty1
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To: Int
Never underestimate a Boer. Nor a Bush.

What have they got to lose, they have been sentenced to genocide, extinction as a nation, a race, and a people, just like the Jews were by Hitler and also in the Purim story.

In their distress they may cry out to the Calvinist God, they are among the few who believe in Him any more, but in His day He was quite a Power to be Reckoned With, ask ole Ben Franklin or Cotton Mather or Peter Stuyvesant.

10 posted on 11/30/2002 9:22:19 PM PST by crystalk
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To: All; Thinkin' Gal; dennisw
PS What ever happened to the 24 heavyweight nukes, and the 1000 tac-nukes, that the bad old SA government used to have twenty years ago?

Or the undisclosed number of neutron bombs (doves)....

11 posted on 11/30/2002 9:24:39 PM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
PS What ever happened to the 24 heavyweight nukes, and the 1000 tac-nukes, that the bad old SA government used to have twenty years ago?

I don't think it ever could have been that many. How about 5 nukes total?

12 posted on 12/01/2002 2:14:12 AM PST by dennisw
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To: crystalk
"Elohim" does NOT mean "angels."

I wondered about that too when I first read it.

13 posted on 12/01/2002 3:41:09 AM PST by Int
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To: dennisw
Oh, my info indicated quite an arsenal in SA, including the vital neutron bombs. But if there were just five, where are THEY?
14 posted on 12/01/2002 6:18:19 AM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
I only have guesses...no info. I just can't concieve of SA having made too many nukes. Israel has plenty of enemy targets on it's list. Who would the SA have used a nuke on? Itself? One of the Black homelands?

Arab nations are a constant menace. SA was not in the same situation...
15 posted on 12/01/2002 6:24:09 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Int
Got to like those Boers. I hope they throw the ANC communists of of S.A. and return the country to its former glory and prosperity.
16 posted on 12/01/2002 6:25:17 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: dennisw
Wherever they are, I suspect they will be used for good, not evil, they may be the last arrows in the quiver of Western aka Judeo-Christian, civilisation if things continue to deteriorate. Antidote to Islamic bomb?

I understand that these things are known in Israel, who helped build them, and that some may be stored/manufactured in Namibia or Botswana...which have areas where the ostensible governments of those countries look the other way...

Mayble I had better shut up. Red letters below say "LLSS."

Africa today looks like Nicaragua did 145 years ago to Walker, just up for grabs to any freebooter who happens along.

17 posted on 12/01/2002 9:22:14 AM PST by crystalk
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To: dennisw
Oh, the SA nuke force was intended to be used against any Communist or UN force that came to do by force, what was done in 1991-94 ff without firing a shot. There had been talk of a Western army, mostly USA, being raised and coming against SA to destroy it by force; the nuke deterrent would have prevented that. That is why the emphasis on tak nukes and on the "doves" which destroy persons without wrecking infrastructure or ruining the land with radioactivity...

The Western ground force to do by violence [what was in fact done with no violence], giving the country over to the blacks and dispossessing the Boers and leaving them homeless, [if this isn't genocide what WOULD be?] would have had to be 300M men or so to beat the SADF. With the SA nukes, not possible at all-- the Boer in his Laager could have stood off the world indefinitely.

Q. Was the Boer promised something for later, or did he just lose his will to live in the face of his worldwide unpopularity at the then moment, and commit suicide? Or is he just PLAYING dead now?

18 posted on 12/01/2002 9:33:56 AM PST by crystalk
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To: dennisw
PS What ever happened to the 24 heavyweight nukes, and the 1000 tac-nukes, that the bad old SA government used to have twenty years ago?

I don't think it ever could have been that many. How about 5 nukes total?

Seven. One was expended in an open-ocean airburst test detected by the Vela 6911 satellite on 22 September 1979, and there's a possibility that a replacement for it was also built using engineering prototypes for some of the critical components. Plans to eventually rebuild and upgrade the South African devices by ARMSCOR around the year 2000 may mean that certain replacement elements beyond those needed for the proposed product improvement plan could have been used as a cover to build as many as three additional units, if the necessary additional nuclear material was also obtained; enough of the documentation and records from the SA nuclear program were destroyed that some such sleight-of-hand is possible. But the total number was around seven, certainly not more than a dozen.

The thousand-plus SA *tactical units* were not nuclear but chemical and bio-war weapons, largely from the Delta G, Roodeplaat Research Laboratories, and Spescop facilities, particularly those involved in the *Projekt Coast* efforts. The South African chemical/bio-war effort of the 1980s was said to be the second most productive in the world, behind only that of the Soviet Union at the time.

-archy-/-

19 posted on 12/01/2002 2:08:14 PM PST by archy
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To: crystalk
Oh, my info indicated quite an arsenal in SA, including the vital neutron bombs, But if there were just five, where are THEY?

A better question: if still around, how might they best be delivered. South Africa's crapped-out Canberra bombers and Hawker Siddeley/BAe Buccaneer strike aircraft were sufficient for those half-dozen or so devices of the 1970s/80s, and the planned follow-on, the South African-built Cheetah E could likely have air delivered such units up to the present day. But what now?

The earliest SA nukes weighed in at around a ton, a bit beyond what South Africa's proposed missile delivery systems could manage, hence a 1980s change to a preference for ChemBio payloads- more cost effective in any event, though downsizing of the bomb units with their proposed modernizetion might have been accomplished. But even in their original form, I guess one of the old South African Airways 747SPs might do it....

-archy-/-


20 posted on 12/01/2002 2:32:23 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
Thanks much for the info...... My guess of 5 was not to shabby.
21 posted on 12/01/2002 2:53:54 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Ohioan
Please enlighten me from my Western (are the Eastern ones any better?) University-induced stupor. Isn't a government that tells people where they should live & work, supports detention without trial and practises "affirmative action" for certain races (Mines and Works Act) a pretty messed-up way to run a society?
22 posted on 12/01/2002 8:42:31 PM PST by Int
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To: Righty1
I guess that you are saying that KR is a political savant? Then who is the puppet master? Does GW even know that he is a tool of the same gray conspirators that ruined his father's presidency? Like the Afrikaners I am having a hard time seeing any way out from here.

Karl Rove is an inadequate man, totally out of his depth in the job assigned to him. He is simply unaware of a myriad of considerations, for which his strategies obviously take no account. He only seems to be effective to people who also lack a broader perspective as to those ignored factors.

Political campaigns are won by those who are able to control the issues. When two relatively ineffective campaigns collide, people will not be even aware of this reality. Thus Rove's idiotic campaign for Bush--it almost completely destroyed the huge early lead that Bush had--still hung on to a victory, because the Gore campaign was simply a predictable rehash of the Left of Center campaigns that the Democrats had been running under Clinton--pandering to completely predictable media support for completely predictably defined interest groups.

But this is not a permanent condition. Nor should the Republican efforts to pander either to the same interest groups, or even their own traditionally defined interest groups, be written in stone. A really intelligent approach would be far more fluid. It would identify new issues for redefined interests, and would refocus even the present apparent issues and appeals, so as to maximize the appeal to voters undergoing a changing perspective.

If Rove even understands any part of this, I would be surprised. [I have deliberately, for the purpose of this brief note, ignored the moral claims of the American people and the American tradition, on any candidate. It is obvious that Rove is not aware of those either.]

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

23 posted on 12/02/2002 2:30:43 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Int
Please enlighten me from my Western (are the Eastern ones any better?) University-induced stupor. Isn't a government that tells people where they should live & work, supports detention without trial and practises "affirmative action" for certain races (Mines and Works Act) a pretty messed-up way to run a society?

Had you ever been to South Africa, prior to the fall of the Nationalist Government? When I was there for an extended trip (six weeeks), I was impressed by how little red tape there was for a young person, who wanted to start a business from scratch.

I think that the point that your education simply denied you, was that the different peoples within the borders of South Africa were not and never had been a single Nation. South Africa was a land of many Nations, and what "Apartheid" was all about, was not suppressing any of those Nations, but allowing them to preserve their respective heritages as separate Nations, without continuing the centralized control that had been a remnant of the Colonial system. Apartheid was never an accomplished result, but a work in progress, intended to allow each of the respective peoples control of their own affairs, their own areas, and their own cultures.

All over Africa, not just in countries with White and Black, Brown and Yellow peoples coming together, you will find today, Black (Negro) tribal groups suppressing and even massacring other Black tribal groups, unfortunate enough to be out of power and favor. This goes on not despite the theories of so-called "Liberals" in the West, but precisely because of the brutal application of those theories in the foreign policies of the great powers. Those people who were murdered in Rwanda, Nigeria, the Congo, Angola, etc., to mention but a few Black on Black instances, were murdered because of the same vicious Socialist mindset that attacked South Africa. (For the American Left's sickening role in all of this, see An American Foreign Policy.

William Flax

24 posted on 12/02/2002 2:48:40 PM PST by Ohioan
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