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Loony 'chosen people' vow revenge (South Africa)
Mail & Guardian ^ | 30 November 2002 13:19 | Hannes de Wet and Mariette le Roux Hannes de Wet and Mariette le Roux

Posted on 11/30/2002 4:08:46 AM PST by Int

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To: archy
Thanks much for the info...... My guess of 5 was not to shabby.
21 posted on 12/01/2002 2:53:54 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Ohioan
Please enlighten me from my Western (are the Eastern ones any better?) University-induced stupor. Isn't a government that tells people where they should live & work, supports detention without trial and practises "affirmative action" for certain races (Mines and Works Act) a pretty messed-up way to run a society?
22 posted on 12/01/2002 8:42:31 PM PST by Int
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To: Righty1
I guess that you are saying that KR is a political savant? Then who is the puppet master? Does GW even know that he is a tool of the same gray conspirators that ruined his father's presidency? Like the Afrikaners I am having a hard time seeing any way out from here.

Karl Rove is an inadequate man, totally out of his depth in the job assigned to him. He is simply unaware of a myriad of considerations, for which his strategies obviously take no account. He only seems to be effective to people who also lack a broader perspective as to those ignored factors.

Political campaigns are won by those who are able to control the issues. When two relatively ineffective campaigns collide, people will not be even aware of this reality. Thus Rove's idiotic campaign for Bush--it almost completely destroyed the huge early lead that Bush had--still hung on to a victory, because the Gore campaign was simply a predictable rehash of the Left of Center campaigns that the Democrats had been running under Clinton--pandering to completely predictable media support for completely predictably defined interest groups.

But this is not a permanent condition. Nor should the Republican efforts to pander either to the same interest groups, or even their own traditionally defined interest groups, be written in stone. A really intelligent approach would be far more fluid. It would identify new issues for redefined interests, and would refocus even the present apparent issues and appeals, so as to maximize the appeal to voters undergoing a changing perspective.

If Rove even understands any part of this, I would be surprised. [I have deliberately, for the purpose of this brief note, ignored the moral claims of the American people and the American tradition, on any candidate. It is obvious that Rove is not aware of those either.]

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

23 posted on 12/02/2002 2:30:43 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Int
Please enlighten me from my Western (are the Eastern ones any better?) University-induced stupor. Isn't a government that tells people where they should live & work, supports detention without trial and practises "affirmative action" for certain races (Mines and Works Act) a pretty messed-up way to run a society?

Had you ever been to South Africa, prior to the fall of the Nationalist Government? When I was there for an extended trip (six weeeks), I was impressed by how little red tape there was for a young person, who wanted to start a business from scratch.

I think that the point that your education simply denied you, was that the different peoples within the borders of South Africa were not and never had been a single Nation. South Africa was a land of many Nations, and what "Apartheid" was all about, was not suppressing any of those Nations, but allowing them to preserve their respective heritages as separate Nations, without continuing the centralized control that had been a remnant of the Colonial system. Apartheid was never an accomplished result, but a work in progress, intended to allow each of the respective peoples control of their own affairs, their own areas, and their own cultures.

All over Africa, not just in countries with White and Black, Brown and Yellow peoples coming together, you will find today, Black (Negro) tribal groups suppressing and even massacring other Black tribal groups, unfortunate enough to be out of power and favor. This goes on not despite the theories of so-called "Liberals" in the West, but precisely because of the brutal application of those theories in the foreign policies of the great powers. Those people who were murdered in Rwanda, Nigeria, the Congo, Angola, etc., to mention but a few Black on Black instances, were murdered because of the same vicious Socialist mindset that attacked South Africa. (For the American Left's sickening role in all of this, see An American Foreign Policy.

William Flax

24 posted on 12/02/2002 2:48:40 PM PST by Ohioan
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