Astronaut Awe-Struck (praises "Mother Earth"; uses tobacco in pagan pre-flight purification ritual)

AP ^ | 12/01/02 | AP

[gg188]

"Mother earth"???? Gosh almighty, how far have we come (or descended, I should say)

Some thoughts

1. Imagine if a CHRISTIAN had wanted to puff a cigarette before taking off into space...Imagine a Christian speaking of Jesus as this guy speaks of "Mother Earth"...

2. What a shame that pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap gets mixed up with the space program of our great nation...

3. SMOKERS (I am not one): you may now claim a SPIRITUAL use of tobacco that should relieve you of the persecution by the left! When the left gets on you for smoking, point out that you are using tobacco in a SPIRITUAL manner.

I mean, if someone can claim that a wooden flute is "spiritual", why not a softpack of Marlboros?

[BlazingArizona]

2. What a shame that pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap gets mixed up with the space program of our great nation...

What part of "...make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" do you not agree with?

[VoiceOfBruck]

In fact, just before launch, Herrington said he and a good friend "smudged" outside NASA crew quarters...

"Smudged?"

[Clara Lou]

RE: tobacco in Space
Didja miss the part where it says that NASA told him he couldn't take tobacco on the shuttle? Talk about a tempest in a teapot.... Take a few deep breaths and try to calm down. It's just too darned bad that NASA didn't check with you before they sent this other American citizen into space.

[Clara Lou]

smudged..., waving smoke from burning leaves onto themselves for purification (see story)

[abigkahuna]

I really think you are getting your undies in a bunch over this one. A "Native American" calling the planet "Mother Earth?" Whats the problem there... He brought along some important trinkets of his culture, talismans so to speak.

Remember Gus Grisom bring along a bunch of trinkets so that they would be "valuable" upon their return?

THe guy smudges with sage prior to lift off to ensure good luck. Hey, why not...rockets are not a sure thing, so why not all the good luck?

[onedoug]

Is he represented by the same witchdoctor who claimed he had to lift some ancient curse from a reservation when what was making everyone ill there was hantavirus?

[Chad Fairbanks]

Why not just leave the headline unmodified? There was no need to use the word Pagan in the headline... what was the point????

[per loin]

2. What a shame that pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap gets mixed up with the space program of our great nation...

Mayhaps ya might take yurself a gander at that there Great Seal of the United States.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Makes me wonder, Was it people like you who forced my great-grandmother into a 'christian' boarding school, so they could destroy that "pagan symbols, mythology and stone-age shamanism crap" belief system her parents would have raised her with...???

[VMI70]

...Herrington said the first time he looked out Endeavour's windows after blasting off Nov. 23, he was amazed at how massive the Earth was and how minute the atmosphere.

Who is wrong here, AP or Herrington? Because of their history, my money's on AP.

[Howlin]

I was at a wedding in Wilmington in October where a guy from Arizona "smudged." It was a very nice thing, IMO. He asked first......and as a group, we ALL said it smelled like dope.......LOL.

[tet68]

You really don't have a clue.

[11B3]

You've got a problem with our religion? Just because it isn't yours? Bigot fool. Grow up before you post anything else that merely shows how ignorant you are. You really are a disgrace to the conservative movement.

[lonestar]

Why are you on the warpath?

[Eternal_Bear]

Sounds like Crazy Horse scalped your great-great grandpa at Little Big Horn and you haven't gotten over it.

[Rocksalt]

" (praises "Mother Earth"; uses tobacco in pagan pre-flight purification ritual)"

How was this "Pagan" in any way-seems more like traditional Native American jazz to me.

[Lyford]

Remember Gus Grisom bring along a bunch of trinkets so that they would be "valuable" upon their return?

Heck, Buzz Aldrin took a cup and a wafer. The first thing he did after he and Armstrong landed on the surface of the moon was take communion...

[mandible]

Smudging is an act of purification, usually done with white sage. The act concentrates the mind and spiritual energy to the task(s) at hand. In other spiritual paths this is also known as annointing, blessing and dedicating.

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

Something just occurred to me. If blacks can sue for reparations, shouldn't the Indians pay for the ills of tobacco?