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ACLU gaining allies from unusual places - Conservatives flocking to rights group...
Associated Press ^ | December 2, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 12/02/2002 4:06:19 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


ACLU gaining allies from unusual places

Conservatives flocking to rights group for help protecting liberties

12/02/2002

Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Whether protecting the disenfranchised or standing up for the right to offend, the American Civil Liberties Union has sided with those claiming they were wronged, even if it meant a distinctly minority stand.

But since Sept. 11 and the government's expansive campaign of monitoring and detention, people are turning to the 82-year-old organization to help safeguard their liberties. Among them are conservatives who made the phrase "card-carrying member of the ACLU" a political insult, but who now are signing up.

"Larger numbers of American people have realized that the ACLU is fundamentally a patriotic organization," executive director Anthony Romero said. There are 330,000 dues-paying members, 50,000 of whom joined after the attacks.

The group has been in the thick of challenges to the government's broadening anti-terrorist powers.

Last week, in response to an ACLU lawsuit, the government agreed to tell the group by mid-January which documents it is willing to release about its increased surveillance activities.

Especially notable among the new enthusiasts are conservatives who once thought the ACLU represented everything that was wrong with the left.

"They are very useful and productive force in jurisprudence," said Rep. Henry Hyde, R-Ill.

Conservatives such as Mr. Hyde are mindful of the history of an organization that was lonely in its defense of positions now accepted as universal: blacks who suffered spurious prosecutions in the 1930s, Japanese interned in the 1940s, books banned as obscene now regarded as part of the literary canon.

Yet the group continues to exasperate some with its uncompromising positions - against a Ten Commandments monument in a Frederick, Md., park, against the government's attempt to get libraries to use computer filters to block sexually explicit material from children, against drug sweeps that it claims are racially motivated.

"This focus on civil liberties post-9-11 has been a wonderful opportunity to reach out to constituencies who would never have thought of the ACLU as their home," said Nadine Strossen, the ACLU's president.

House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, and Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., have said they will consider serving as consultants for the group when they leave Congress next month.

Ms. Strossen says nothing has fundamentally changed.

"One person's stigma is another's badge of honor," she said. "Putting your money where your mouth is means defending those whose views are counter to yours."


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/120202dnnataclu.9a5b.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aclu; conservatives; henryhyde
Conservatives such as Mr. Hyde are mindful of the history of an organization that was lonely in its defense of positions now accepted as universal: blacks who suffered spurious prosecutions in the 1930s, Japanese interned in the 1940s, books banned as obscene now regarded as part of the literary canon.

Hmm?.... Has the ACLU done anything worthwhile in the last 60 years?

I think the title is wishful thinking by the A/P and/or The Dallas Mourning News.

1 posted on 12/02/2002 4:06:19 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Wow, what a stunningly biased piece of drivel. Next time someone asks about liberal media bias just show them this article from the "AP staff"
2 posted on 12/02/2002 4:12:55 AM PST by Godel
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To: MeeknMing
When is the ACLU going to sue to protect our 2nd ammendment rights? When are they going to protect our "freedom of religion" instead of pushing for "freedom from religion? When are they going to protect life in womb? What have they done for taxpayer's rights?
3 posted on 12/02/2002 4:28:42 AM PST by Cacique
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To: MeeknMing
Does this have something to do with Poindexter's TIA [Total Information Awareness] Sytem? I would not be surprised if there is a multi-party coalition forming against it. FReegards....
4 posted on 12/02/2002 4:57:25 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Thud
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5 posted on 12/02/2002 4:59:18 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Cacique
When is the ACLU going to sue to protect our 2nd ammendment rights? When are they going to protect our "freedom of religion" instead of pushing for "freedom from religion? When are they going to protect life in womb? What have they done for taxpayer's rights?

All excellent questions. But of course, the ACLU caters mostly to LIBERAL causes and other whackos.....

6 posted on 12/02/2002 5:15:00 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
. . . of course, the ACLU caters mostly to LIBERAL causes and other whackos.....

One interesting possibility is that a changing membership (more conservative) might just move the ACLU itself to the right.

7 posted on 12/02/2002 5:21:13 AM PST by toddst
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To: MeeknMing
"flocking"? "FLOCKING"??

A couple of conservatives join and that is considered FLOCKING??

They claim they've added 50K since 9/11/01 and that is a watershed??

How about the ELECTIONS OF 11/05/02, you Associated Press clowns?? How's this for a headline:

AMERICANS FLOCKING TO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES


I think America's ideas are more represented by the mass voting pattern in an election than two former Congressmen getting a job with an ad hoc law firm.

That being said, I'm glad they're working with the ACLU. Maybe they can infiltrate it and change it from the inside...though I suspect once they've outlived their usefulness to the liberal elite power structure of the ACLU, Barr and Armey will be tossed out faster than flavorless gum.

8 posted on 12/02/2002 5:28:00 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: toddst
One interesting possibility is that a changing membership (more conservative) might just move the ACLU itself to the right.

That will remain to be seen, I guess. I have my doubts as to the verity of this A/P report. Media bias and all, you know?....

9 posted on 12/02/2002 5:32:41 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Boy, the ACLU is feeding on all kinds ofconspiracy theorists.
10 posted on 12/02/2002 5:32:45 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Thanks. I believe you're on the mark with that post.
11 posted on 12/02/2002 5:34:28 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Gosh, what a solid an unbiased piece of reporting. ( / sarcasm )

I was suckered into joining the ACLU in my college days. I eternally regret how easily I was fooled. The ACLU picks a token "right wing" case every now and then to feign objectivity. But 99 percent of their "defense" of the Constitution comes from a liberal perspective of what that means. They're one of the groups most responsible for undermining the clear meaning of the Constitution, and ignoring original intent in favor of a "living" document.

They also have a funny way of twisting the second amendment into a right of the government, rather than one of the people.

12 posted on 12/02/2002 5:34:32 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: lavaroise
Yep.
13 posted on 12/02/2002 5:35:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Snuffington
Thank you....
14 posted on 12/02/2002 5:46:35 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
ACLU is fundamentally a patriotic organization,"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........funniest thing I heard all day..... The communist party forced underground.....morphed into the ACLU imo

15 posted on 12/02/2002 6:03:39 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: MeeknMing
...the ACLU is fundamentally a patriotic organization.

ROFLMAO!

16 posted on 12/02/2002 6:53:15 AM PST by nonliberal
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To: MeeknMing
The ACLU is a disgusting organization. It is an organization that is defending NAMBLA and enganged in anti-Christian persecution. The ACLU has a horrible record when it comes to defending the 2nd Amendment and the 10th Amendment.

Fred Barnes predicts that Armey and Barr would bring alot to the table for the ACLU, but the ACLU is so left wing that they will probably kick Armey and Barr out.

17 posted on 12/02/2002 7:14:21 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: MeeknMing
I always thought that an organization like the ACLU was great in theory. The problem, as many of you have pointed out, is that the actual group as it exists today seems to only stand up for the rights that liberals care about. Perhaps the infusion of a few conservtive members will correct this, but I doubt it. The longtime traditional members of the group are such hardcore leftists, they'd never allow that to hapen.

Maybe a better alternative would be for various conservative groups to unite under one roof to form their own legal foundation. They could stick up for the rights of gunowners, college students who get censored by P.C. campus speech codes, people who don't get jobs because they are not a member of an approved minority group,future political candidates whose free speech is curtailed by CFR restrictions, business owners who are being victimized by outrageous governmental regulations, etc.
18 posted on 12/02/2002 8:15:00 AM PST by Media Insurgent
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To: Cacique
The ACLU is a group of anti-American Americans who want nothing more than the spread of their socialist/liberal worldview. May they and their ideas rot in hell.
19 posted on 12/02/2002 9:24:01 AM PST by ohioman
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