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Israel warns of response to mass terror
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Posted on 12/02/2002 8:40:52 PM PST by Dallas

HERZLIYA, Israel, Dec. 2 (UPI) -- The head of Israel's National Security Council said Monday that a "mega-terror attack" threatening Israel's existence would open options for retaliation that hitherto "were unacceptable to public opinion."

Ephraim Halevy, who recently stepped down as head of the Mossad spy service, warned that Israel has "a broad and varied range of capabilities (to cope with a threat to its existence) that better not be exposed prematurely."

In an address to the Third Herzliya Conference on the Balance of Israel's Security, Halevy said Israel must examine the new reality created by last week's attempt to shoot down an Israeli airliner taking off from Mombassa, Kenya.

Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz Sunday told the Cabinet there were increasing signs that al Qaida was behind Thursday's attacks in Mombassa. Three suicide bombers attacked a hotel frequented by Israelis killing themselves, 10 Kenyans and three Israelis. At the same time two shoulder-launched missiles were fired at an Israeli Boeing 757-300 taking off from Mombassa International Airport with 272 passengers and crew. The missiles barely missed the plane.

Military chief of General Staff, Lt. Gen. Moshe Ya'alon, said Monday the Israel Defense Forces have already foiled many al Qaida attacks in Israel. Al Qaida has Palestinian operatives in the occupied territories and "has declared war on ... infidels, making Israel one of its main targets," he said.

At the Herzliya conference Halevy said, "The emergence of a mega-terror attack by the world Jihad or by another terror organization changes rules of the game, changes the national mood and creates an international dynamic that opens options that so far have been unacceptable to public opinion."

One must assume that a successful mega-terror incident would "at once changes rules of conduct and behavior. The emerging threat (to Israel) is a threat of genocide -- destroying a state and its institutions," he added.

The new National Security Council chief said the campaign the world Jihad is waging has no boundary lines, regular forces and the attackers violate "all rules of war."

No one can remain neutral, he continued. "Whoever gives the terrorists any aide whatsoever -- identifies with terror. It is possible that due to temporary conditions ... not all those aiding terror will be taken care of simultaneously ... But it is clear that at the end of the day whoever fails to clarify his positions here and now and back them with deeds, will be marked as an accessory to terror and will pay the full price for it."

Haalevy declined comment on a report that al Qaida had claimed responsibility for Thursday's attacks in Mombassa. He told United Press International he was not aware of any such claim.

Haifa University's Professor Gabriel Ben-Dor reported on a changing public attitude towards terror attacks. Basing his findings on the results of five public opinion surveys conducted at six months intervals among 2,000 people Ben Dor said that more than 80 percent of the Israelis polled expressed fear of terror attacks.

That translated also into increased Israeli militancy with as many as 70 percent ready to back any military action.

However in the last survey, in October, he found a decline in fear, patriotism and militancy. "It seems as though the Israeli public is getting accustomed to living with the phenomena of terror," he concluded.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ephraimhalevy
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1 posted on 12/02/2002 8:40:53 PM PST by Dallas
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To: Dallas
All I can say is, "shut up and do it already". I mean, this sounds like "double secret ultra probation" or something.

The Israelis already have all the reason they need to do just about anything concerning these Islamopsychos.

2 posted on 12/02/2002 8:42:52 PM PST by ikka
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To: ikka
Well, no. For instance, Israel has at least a couple of hundred nuclear weapons, but will not use them unless the circumstances require it. This is just a reminder to the Muslims not to up the ante too much.

It's all very well to talk about nuking Baghdad, for instance, but to actually do it is another matter. Yet it could conceivably happen if Saddam miscalculates.

This is probably also directed at the Saudis.
3 posted on 12/02/2002 8:49:02 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Dallas
would open options for retaliation that hitherto "were unacceptable to public opinion."

Except for the most effective and bloodless option: transfer
4 posted on 12/02/2002 8:57:39 PM PST by arielb
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To: Cicero
"It's all very well to talk about nuking Baghdad, for instance, but to actually do it is another matter."

Absolutely correct. After all, how might Cairo, Damascus, Teheran and Riyadh react to such brazen favoritism? The only way to avoid such a contretemps is to nuke all of these Islamofascist swine. Quiet them down for fifty years or so.

5 posted on 12/02/2002 9:09:33 PM PST by Bedford Forrest
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To: Dallas
These warnings have been made for two years now and they do nothing. "Shut up and do it already" sums up my sentiments EXACTLY. Why they have to wait for a successful "megaterror" attack is beyond me.
6 posted on 12/02/2002 9:23:35 PM PST by ConservativeConvert
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To: ConservativeConvert
Why they have to wait for a successful "megaterror" attack is beyond me.

See above quote: "were unacceptable to public opinion."

Political Correctness, or, What would the New York Times say?

7 posted on 12/02/2002 9:36:00 PM PST by Abar
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To: Cicero
Not to mention the rath they would incur by killing US Armed Service personnel in the area... then all bets are off!
8 posted on 12/02/2002 9:55:01 PM PST by Terridan
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To: Bedford Forrest
"Put a skeer on 'em, and keep 'em skeered."
9 posted on 12/02/2002 9:58:20 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: ikka
hear hear!
10 posted on 12/02/2002 9:59:28 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: arielb
If Israel were ever destroyed the entire Muslim world would be reduced beforehand to a pile of cinder. The jihadists have been bluntly put on notice that their fevered crusade to destroy Israel is not going to end in triumph for them as they so readily imagine. Imagine World III as Hiroshimas and Nagasakis from Casablanca to Tehran. No more Muslim world if Muslims don't start to get their crazies under control soon.
11 posted on 12/02/2002 10:00:06 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
I mean World War III. The War To End All Wars.
12 posted on 12/02/2002 10:00:34 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: arielb
Ah, reverse ethnic cleansing! Nice try Jose, but it won't wash.
13 posted on 12/02/2002 10:40:28 PM PST by zarf
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To: arielb
"Except for the most effective and bloodless option: transfer"

It's all part of the same package deal. If things ever got to the point where a nuclear reprisal was appropriate, you can count on the IDF driving the Jordanian and Egyptian refugees (otherwise known as "Palestinians") back across their respective borders before the mushroom cloud dissipated. Israel knows that it can't afford to leave a job half done—a nuclear launch would likely mean the end of Israel's export-based economy as the Euro-weenies slam up trade barriers in protest, so all long-term threats to the country would have to be resolved at once.

Up until that point, though, population transfer, while the most humane solution possible—and a solution that suited world opinion just fine in India and Pakistan, strangely enough—is just not an option. The world reaction it would provoke would devastate Israel economically, which would soon mean military devastation as well. It cannot be undertaken except in the context of terminating the military threat posed by the Arab League first.

14 posted on 12/02/2002 10:42:25 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: ConservativeConvert
These warnings have been made for two years now and they do nothing. "Shut up and do it already" sums up my sentiments EXACTLY. Why they have to wait for a successful "megaterror" attack is beyond me.

Apparently you don't follow US state dept/Bush policy too closely. Following each new terrorist outrage in Israel, the US government...knowing that it holds the "purse strings"...leads the "chorus" of "world community" voices in demanding that Israel exercise restraint. Same thing with Russia in Chechnya. They tie the hands of our natural allies in the war on international terror. I believe this policy of demanding restraint on the part of our allies originates from the state dept and Colin Powell. It then gets pushed in front of GWB who seems to blindly and without much thought buy in.

I don't know if this is some sort of ego trip on the part of US officials...i.e. we're not going to let you win today...or they see it as some sort of glorified cock fight between jews and arabs which they wish to orchestrate and prolong as long as possible, but the conclusion is almost inescapeable...and has been for years: the US state dept does not want peace in the mid-east.

They cannot possibly be as stupid as their track record indicates...even coming from Ivy League schools. Some have suggested it is a policy of perpetual commerce through perpetual war.

To paraphrase a famous bard of last century, Barry Goldwater: Timidity in the persuit of demonic terrorist cults is no virtue. Extremism in defense of Western civilization is no vice.

15 posted on 12/02/2002 10:55:53 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Cicero
I was thinking more along the lines of conventional warfare in the tanks-and-guns sense.

If you look at a map you can see why in most cases nukes would not be an option - the countries are too close to each other.

The statements could be taken to mean that Israel will retaliate against Iraq if they pull a Gulf War II-style bombing of Israel when the US planes come.

16 posted on 12/02/2002 11:10:01 PM PST by ikka
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To: zarf
It doesn't have to wash, it just has to be.
17 posted on 12/03/2002 12:13:02 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
Following the destruction, by force if necessary, of Islamofacism; A Palestinian state WILL be.
18 posted on 12/03/2002 12:39:00 AM PST by zarf
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To: zarf
I think they have terminally stepped on their collective johnsons..
19 posted on 12/03/2002 1:21:15 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: arielb
Bloodless?

Ha ha ha...

Transfer will be the bloodiest thing Israel ever has to do. The sooner it gets it over with, the better.

20 posted on 12/03/2002 1:28:27 AM PST by xm177e2
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