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Your ID of 3 types of conservatives is intersting but there are so many other brands I think the term should be scrapped as it is too confused and nobody knows who is who and what is what any more. In NYC there is a Pizza parlor called Ray's Pizza. Also there is Famous Ray's Pizza, Original Ray's Pizza, The Famous Original Ray's Pizza, Orignal Famous Ray's Pizza, etc, etc, etc and etc. How many conservatives today would classify as a conservative of the the 1930's or early post war period? How many conservatives want to go back to strict constitutional domestic AND foreign policy? How may conservatives want to conserve empire and entangling alliances? How many want to manage the welfare state better than the Dems? Conservatism has "evloved" the way "liberal" evolved from the 18th cent. to the 20th cent. Perhaps old time conservatives should let the neocons have the name and just called themselves something else like constitutionalist, traditionalist, or even libertarians or as a friend of mine says call ourselves losers, admit the game is lost and enjoy what years we have left as best we can. Of course people with children might not be so fatalistic and quick to throw in the towel.

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"Perhaps old time conservatives should let the neocons have the name and just called themselves something else like constitutionalist, traditionalist, or even libertarians or as a friend of mine says call ourselves losers, admit the game is lost and enjoy what years we have left as best we can. "

LOL. You have said it best!