1 posted on
12/04/2002 1:37:10 AM PST by
tictoc
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To: tictoc
Best article I've read in a LONG time.
Karl is wicked good!
2 posted on
12/04/2002 1:56:19 AM PST by
dasboot
To: tictoc
This is the vaccume that Islam is moving into. The near future of mankind is not a pretty picture for our Nation is sliding into a self serving mode too. As we abandon morals for a free xxxx society, the load on the remaining workers increases until the roof falls in.
Great post, thanks
To: tictoc
This is a GREAT post! Thank you so much. I wish that this would get huge play in the US. It counters everything that the NYT and other media "bigs" try to tell us about ourselves. We Americans should be proud of ourselves and not ashamed, as our media would have us believe.
4 posted on
12/04/2002 2:37:06 AM PST by
patj
To: tictoc
Excellent article. Thank you for posting it.
Europe doesn't seem to have a clue to what is rapidly happening to it.
I don't fear the EU simply because it is a destructive economic force, not a constructive one. Their ability to compete is falling, not growing.
5 posted on
12/04/2002 2:53:23 AM PST by
DB
To: tictoc
Splendid article. I do have a couple of factors to bring up that Karl seems to have overlooked.
1.
Near the end of the piece he talks of new world alliances, in particular where the US will have to look for strategic partnerships (as he points out, certainly not "EU"rope). But he fails to mention, unless I blanked out while reading the piece, Russia. In the Western World, it has the best chance of being an economically and socially dynamic democracy, one with which we can make increasingly common cause.
Ironically, Russia standing on the outside of NATO serves this purpose; because it may become necessary, in the face of increasing EU hostility and interference, to abandon NATO and let the deluded Euroweenies take on their own defense. (A good start will be when we pull our forces out of Germany, something that must be done as soon as we can secure alternative facilities, e.g. in CIS states.) Since Russia's not a member, they won't have to go through the possibly tortuous process of pulling out, and it will be easier for us to forge a 'post-NATO' relationship with the only military power in Europe that will really count.
Of course the Russian/CIS connection is in addition to Asian alliances. We all know there may unfortunately be Hell to pay in that region; but perhaps the political and economic difficulties with the big players there (read: China and Japan, respectively) will pass, or at least abate to where they do not blow up world affairs. Or the World <)B^(.
2.
Karl makes illuminating points about the changing demographics of the EU states. But he doesn't use the "I" word, and to me this is the elephant in the powder room.
EU politicians are already afraid of their Islamist populations, and as the 'anglo' population declines, the politicians will become ever more pusillanimously deferential to the Islamic Mob. We're talking about a resurgence of brown-shirtism here, and it has the same potential for wrecking what's left of Western Civ on the Continent.
And, as in 1933, we Americans will not be able to remain aloof. Indeed, as some have said, in historical implications 9/11 in some ways resembles Pearl Harbor; in other ways, Krystallnacht or the burning of the Reichstag.
3.
One final comment. The UK is at one of the great crossroads of her history. She's going to have to choose between EUrope and America. Which way she chooses determines her future, if she is to have one.
6 posted on
12/04/2002 2:54:44 AM PST by
Erasmus
To: tictoc
This one MUST BE BTTT!
8 posted on
12/04/2002 5:29:58 AM PST by
DB
To: tictoc
bookmarked ... and BTTT
To: Heuristic Hiker
Interesting article on the future of Europe.
To: tictoc
Old And In The Way
Lyrics: David Grisman
Music: David Grisman
Chorus
Old and in the way, that's what I heard them say
They used to heed the words he said, but that was yesterday
Gold will turn to gray and youth will fade away
They'll never care about you, call you old and in the way
Once I hear tell, he was happy
He had his share of friends and good times
Now, those friends have all passed on
He don't have a place called home
Looking back to a better day, feeling old and in the way
[chorus]
When just a boy, he left his home
Thought he'd have the world on a string
Now the years have come and gone
Through the streets he walks alone
Like the old dog gone astray, he's just old and in the way
[chorus]
[chorus]
Recordings
8 Oct 1973 Old And In The Way
To: tictoc
BUMP
To: tictoc
bump
Wonderful analogy, I totally agree
To: tictoc
An interisting article
PING
15 posted on
12/04/2002 2:42:33 PM PST by
NathanR
To: tictoc
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
To: Sidebar Moderator
Is there a chance of keeping this up in "Foreign Affairs"?
18 posted on
12/04/2002 11:56:09 PM PST by
tictoc
To: tictoc
Bump
20 posted on
12/06/2002 2:55:36 AM PST by
tictoc
To: tictoc
Bump for future read.
21 posted on
04/05/2003 4:34:01 PM PST by
meyer
(how do I turn this thing off?)
To: tictoc
He insisted the seemingly mighty U.S. military was now a hollow force, all flash and no substance.Someone find this jerkoff's email address. Let's have him back this up NOW.
22 posted on
04/05/2003 4:42:37 PM PST by
Timesink
(When was the last time YOU remembered we're on Code Orange?)
To: tictoc
And to think the Democraps in California want make that state's economy and government more "statist" like Europe. These people have to learn everything the hard way!
24 posted on
04/05/2003 5:09:22 PM PST by
rimmont
To: tictoc
At European tax levels, it is impossible to have a large family and maintain a middle-class standard of living, so middle-class couples don't have kids.
Conversely, the Welfare State will subsidize an unlimited number of kids at a "welfare-class" standard of living.
The problem with this is what happens when things break down, there aren't enough middle-class taxpayers to support the welfare-class tax-consumers, and the welfare checks don't come one week
25 posted on
04/05/2003 5:09:36 PM PST by
SauronOfMordor
(Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
To: tictoc
Saving Europe from the Nazis was just a temporary fix for a continent that is and was, bent on self destruction anyway.
26 posted on
04/05/2003 5:13:51 PM PST by
rimmont
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