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The Battle of Savo Island - Aug 9, 1942 _ U.S. Navy's Worst Defeat
WW2 PACIFIC ^ | Unknown | Unknown

Posted on 12/04/2002 5:37:50 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: SAMWolf; Sparta
Sparta, you might want to consider pinging the entire list back to this thread for SAMWolf's #39. THAT is an excellent story of the military honoring their heritage and teaching their men about the sacrifices of the predecessors.
41 posted on 12/04/2002 7:19:09 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for the article and follow-up, SAM.

I met a Pearl Harbor Survivor a few months ago who served on a tin can that was sunk, possibly in this battle. I've got to dig through my papers to find the notes I took when we had our conversation. He was a very interesting fellow to talk to and I learned a lot in the short amount of time we spent together. I think I posted a comment at the Canteen about the encounter, but that was during the time that I was on the list. Now, where did I put those notes?

42 posted on 12/04/2002 8:03:47 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: Diver Dave
I hope you find the name of the ship. We lost a lost of ships around Guadalcanal, it's be interesting to know if his went down there.
43 posted on 12/04/2002 8:20:14 PM PST by SAMWolf
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The clear victor at Savo Island was Japanese Vice Admiral Gunichi Mikawa, but he failed to follow up on his triumph.

Just like Pearl Harbor. If he had followed on and destroyed the transports who know how much longer the war would of lasted.

46 posted on 12/04/2002 9:09:56 PM PST by Valin
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To: tuckessee
Thanks for that clarification, tuckessee. Still haven't found my notes from my conversation with Richard.
47 posted on 12/04/2002 11:33:36 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: copperheadmike
I'm thankful for both your father's and your uncle's service. I'm sorry to hear about your uncle.
49 posted on 12/05/2002 5:36:28 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: KeyWest
The CO got a medal but refused to allow one for my Dad. He hated him for being right.

Thanks for telling about your dad. Being right is seldom forgiven. Fortunately there are still people who will speak up.

50 posted on 12/05/2002 5:47:39 PM PST by pttttt
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To: Valin; SAMWolf
The clear victor at Savo Island was Japanese Vice Admiral Gunichi Mikawa, but he failed to follow up on his triumph.

One fact the the article doesn't make clear is that Mikawa did not know the U.S. carriers had withdrawn. He was certain that if he regrouped and attacked the transports his force would be destroyed by carrier aircraft at sunrise.

In postwar interviews he insisted had made the correct choice in withdrawing, based on the information he had at the time, and was more than a little bitter at the second guessing of his descision by later critics who knew that there was in fact no air threat.

51 posted on 12/11/2002 6:08:10 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY
based on the information he had at the time

Correct, second guessing the commander on the spot is easy after the fact.

52 posted on 12/11/2002 6:17:35 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: GATOR NAVY
My brother-in-law was very happy he didn't know.
53 posted on 12/11/2002 9:17:54 PM PST by Valin
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To: Valin
I'll bet!

I just commented because Mikawa has often been portrayed as a moron or a pansy for not going on to the transports. The fact is he beat the snot out of us and as far as he knew, he had excellent tactical reasons to withdraw.
54 posted on 12/11/2002 9:25:18 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: KeyWest

My Dad was also on The U.S.S Astoria CA-34 “ The Nasty Asty”. He too was wounded during that battle and saved by an unknown sailor. My dads name was Lester E. Iglehart. I’ve become very interested in the battle of Savo Island since he died, he never talked about it with us.


55 posted on 08/03/2016 12:37:13 PM PDT by kigle1
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To: SAMWolf
Guadacanal was a nightmare for the Marines, they were operating on a shoestring.

The Guadalcanal invasion was officially called "Operation Watchtower" but the Marines actually did sardonically call it "Operation Shoestring."

This was because these Marines, commanded by Major General Vandegrift, came to the theater expecting to have six months to train and organize their materials before being put into action. Instead, Admiral King demanded an immediate invasion of the Solomons once it became clear that the Japanese were building an airstrip on Guadalcanal island (thanks to the reports of British coast watcher Martin Clemens). This airstrip would have threatened the vital sea routes connecting Australia to the U.S. West Coast.

So the Marines had to deploy immediately with only a portion of the supplies and materials they should have had at their disposal.

Making matters worse, Admiral Fletcher insisted on removing his carriers just two days after the Marines landed as he believed them to be in "grave danger". Admiral Turner insisted that five days were needed to offload the supplies and materials that were brought to the theater but Fletcher would not relent. So the Marines were left to effectively fend for themselves with not even half of the already inadequate supplies they brought.

One can only wonder how the Battle of Savo Island would have turned out had Fletcher kept the three carrier groups in the area.

56 posted on 11/28/2021 5:06:28 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 3 days away from outliving Holly Dunn)
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