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To: Dutchgirl
Priniciples 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7 sound good to me. Just remember that #5 cuts both ways, ie. "pro-Ten Commandments."

Principle 6: politics as usual but let's get federal involvement out the schools and bring it back to the local level where it belongs, mkay?

Principle 3: blanket statements like this are just dumb and arrogant. I'm going to say something that's probably going to get me hammered here but: "The United Nations is a good thing. We need a world-wide dialogue and global resolutions to our problems." Does that sound crazy?

14 posted on 12/04/2002 12:56:40 PM PST by CapedCrusader
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To: CapedCrusader
Principle 3: blanket statements like this are just dumb and arrogant. I'm going to say something that's probably going to get me hammered here but: "The United Nations is a good thing. We need a world-wide dialogue and global resolutions to our problems." Does that sound crazy?

Why is it a good thing? What specific good has it done the U.S.? How are we prevented from having dialogue without it?

Principle 3 reads as follows: Our government has the duty to protect the independence and sovereignty of the United States of America. The Senate should reject all United Nations treaties because they create committees of busybody foreigners to monitor U.S. compliance. Which of those sentences do you believe is incorrect?

17 posted on 12/04/2002 1:10:44 PM PST by workerbee
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To: CapedCrusader
Principle 3: blanket statements like this are just dumb and arrogant. I'm going to say something that's probably going to get me hammered here but: "The United Nations is a good thing. We need a world-wide dialogue and global resolutions to our problems." Does that sound crazy?

Yes it does, but not for the reasons you apparently think.

The debating society you laud isn't what the UN is all about nor is it the danger Ms. Schlafley cites (although if Saddam completes a WOD and smuggles it out of the country while Kofi sweetheart dithers, you will start to realize how dangerous an organization it is). Her concern is multilateral treaties that become supreme law of the land and then have managing secretariats of paid activists that define their terms and applications AFTER ratification. If you want to know where many of the property rights abuses pursuant to the Endangered Species Act or Clean Water Act originated (that have harmed both humans and nature), you need look no further than the UN. UN bureaucrats are now publishing documents specifying land use in the US, the manner of our children's education, gay rights, abortion rights, rights of "migratory peoples"...

You clearly have a lot to learn about the UN. Its true purpose is racketeering and organized crime at the expense of your rights and liberties. Best you had get started with your education.

19 posted on 12/04/2002 1:25:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: CapedCrusader
Your view of the UN is what it was intended to be, and was initially sold as. This is like most liberal programs, they have "good intentions".

What you have to look at is the results. The UN has become a group of brutal dictators who prop up other brutal dictators and who constantly seek ways to drain the riches of our successful free society.

24 posted on 12/04/2002 2:17:47 PM PST by MrB
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To: CapedCrusader
We need a world-wide dialogue and global resolutions to our problems." Does that sound crazy?

The only thing crazy is WE don't need it THEY need it for THEIR problems..

45 posted on 12/05/2002 8:01:11 AM PST by lewislynn
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