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To: JohnGalt
An interesting analysis by the author, though I disagree with the premise that no progress has been made. However, I won't go into that now. And regardless, there can be no end to the struggle for the rights of the unborn....no more than Wilberforce could have given up in his fight against the de-humanization of blacks. Within the historic Christian faith, there simply isn't an option to sit down and shut up.

On his point that this is an anti-Christian nation, I know I've been saying that for years. It's about time that it be acknowledged. It's not a Christian nation (although it was clearly founded by such and many today simply claim to be), it's not even a non-Christian nation....it's anti-Christian. But then, we are feeling the birthpangs of the endtimes and no Christian should be surprised by it. While I don't like it, I know that greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. As believers we also know that we are overcomers - regardless of who and how many hate us. After all, they hated Him first.

4 posted on 12/05/2002 7:54:04 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun; JohnGalt
annie and john,

You mention the roots of the USA.
They are ostensibly Christian.

However was it not always a Christianity focused on INDIVIDUAL freedom to consider Christianity to be whatever the INDIVIDUAL thought it might be? Thus Max is perfectly free to declare Act Z to be sinful, while Erma is free to declare the same Act Z to be godly.

I wonder if it was not inevitible that eventually the USA would become a society based on an absolute libertine view of personal freedom.

If one thinks that Christ's gospel can be interpreted correctly by every individual, then chaos is bound to result.

Churches based on episcopal hierarchies are not free from potential problems, but unity of belief and authenticity of doctrine is much more likely to occur when popularity does not determine doctrine.



7 posted on 12/05/2002 8:08:29 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: anniegetyourgun
, it's not even a non-Christian nation....it's anti-Christian.

This is so true. Last nite on FNC they ran a clip of some NAG (Gandy? Grady?) listing the grievances they have against those horrible, awful, barbaric (sarcasm) protesters. "They are still ... praying outside the clinics." Pat Ireland was looking on and nodding. Praying in public is a RICO offense?!!? Astounding.

17 posted on 12/05/2002 9:07:05 AM PST by Lil'freeper
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