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To: sinkspur; All; 2sheep; Thinkin' Gal; RnMomof7; Jeremiah Jr

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q; 2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (Q; 9:123), slay them (Q; 9:5), fight with them, (Q; 8:65 ). It tells its followes to humiliate the Christians and the Jews and impose on them a penalty tax (Q; 9:29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tells clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q;3:85). It relegates those who disbelieve in it it to hell  (Q;5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q;9:28) and orders the Muslims to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q;2:193). Quran states that the non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water (Q;14:17); it asks the Muslims to slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, and expel them from the land with disgrace and that “they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (Q;5:34). It says that for the disbelievers "garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (Q;22:19). Quran prohibits Muslims to befriend their own brothers and fathers if they are non-believers (Q;9:23), (Q;3:28). It asks the Muslims to “strive against the unbelievers with great endeavor (Q;25:52) and be stern with them because they belong to hell (Q;66:9).  The holy Prophet demanded his followers to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” for ransom (Q;47:4). 

111 posted on 12/05/2002 5:15:24 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Read the Old Testament lately?

115 posted on 12/05/2002 5:21:12 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Sir Gawain
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them.

Then why don't they do it? Why do my American Muslim neighbors, who pray five times a day and attend services at the Mosque whenever they are supposed to, laugh when I ask them about these statements?

One of them told me that these statements are "Medina statements," which are meant for a specific place and time that has already passed.

The "Universal" or "Mecca statements" are those which command Muslims to be peaceful, and are applicable for all time.

Kinda like the Old and New Testaments. We aren't "smiting heathens" any more, are we?

119 posted on 12/05/2002 5:23:51 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Sir Gawain
I asked my Muslim friend about the exact versus you quote from the Koran. She said that the Muslims she knows understand that it was written long ago and applied to times back then- not now. She said in her Mosque, no one believes these passgaes apply to modern times.
130 posted on 12/05/2002 5:32:13 PM PST by rintense
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To: Sir Gawain
The holy Prophet demanded his followers to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; then after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” for ransom (Q;47:4). 

But they do it with such love..Did you see Zobgy on CNN the other night telling the bow tie on cross fire that Christian and Jewish fundamentalists are killing Muslims? And bow tie LET HIM get away with that

I am just about done with the Republican Party

291 posted on 12/05/2002 7:56:40 PM PST by RnMomof7
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