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To: American in Israel
If there are federal and state officers able to come down on these 'vigilantes' then there should be federal and state officers able to stop regular illegal entries into the U.S. And unless these so-called vigilantes do something illegal, I don't think the protect-lawbreakers-policemen will be able to touch them--I'm not sure what state or federal law says that there is no legal basis for stopping others from breaking the law if you're not a policeman. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that the whole notion of police arose because the hue and cry system was ineffective, but it never actually ended the ability of people to make citizens' arrests of lawbreakers.

I'd strongly suggest that the people on the borders in this vigilante mood post signs that say in English and Spanish something along the lines of "DANGER. If you enter past this point without owner's express permission, you are confirming and admitting your intent to kill him." And in smaller print, put the owner's contact info. Finally, international 'do not enter' symbols for the few truly illiterate folks that might cross.

After that, seems to me that owners would have the right to hold trespassers on their property with a gun. Maybe this would not give them the clear right to actually SHOOT trespassers, unless the trespassers came agressively toward them, but that the owners should then be able use a gun and hold them for law officers, with the trespassers' intent already clearly proven.
7 posted on 12/06/2002 12:25:33 AM PST by LibertarianInExile
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To: LibertarianInExile
After that, seems to me that owners would have the right to hold trespassers on their property with a gun. Maybe this would not give them the clear right to actually SHOOT trespassers, unless the trespassers came agressively toward them, but that the owners should then be able use a gun and hold them for law officers, with the trespassers' intent already clearly proven.

If these poor saps take your advice they are doomed from the start. I hope to hell you are not a lawyer.

8 posted on 12/06/2002 12:36:33 AM PST by Texasforever
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7-"I'd strongly suggest that the people on the borders in this vigilante mood post signs that say in English and Spanish something along the lines of "DANGER. If you enter past this point without owner's express permission, you are confirming and admitting your intent to kill him."

When I was growning up in the 50's in Florida, this was common practice, and it was called 'posting' your property, against trespassers, who could/would be legally shot. In fact, trespassers were regularly shot, and it kept problems to a minimum, and this was common in much of the south.

I don't what has happened to this practice these days, but I don't see these 'POSTED' signs anymore.
19 posted on 12/06/2002 6:11:33 AM PST by XBob
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I'd strongly suggest that the people on the borders in this vigilante mood post signs that say in English and Spanish something along the lines of "DANGER...

Don't forget Arabic and what ever language they speak in Iraq, Iran, etc.

38 posted on 12/06/2002 10:54:10 PM PST by Rollee
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