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Who's Right on the Second?
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-volohk120602.asp ^ | Eugene Volokh

Posted on 12/06/2002 10:59:51 AM PST by On the Road to Serfdom

Who’s Right on Second?

Living, breathing decisions.

By Eugene Volokh

Someone asked me a few days ago, after the Ninth Circuit's latest decision about the Second Amendment: Shouldn't courts read the Second Amendment as part of an evolving Constitution? Say the Ninth Circuit was wrong, last year's Emerson decision from the Fifth Circuit was right, and the Framers thought of the Amendment as securing an individual right. Shouldn't judges update it due to the passage of time, based on evolving standards of justice and practicality?

1. Well, here's one way to justify this position: The Second Amendment as written was meant to apply only to the federal government, and can only apply to the states via the Fourteenth Amendment. Thus, when we consider what the Second Amendment means with regard to state laws, we shouldn't look at what people in 1791 thought of the right-to-bear arms — we should look at what people in 1868 thought the Fourteenth Amendment would do as to the right-to-bear arms.

If we do that, we see that while in 1791 the Framers did think of the right as largely aimed at societal self-defense, including defense against government tyranny — albeit self-defense that would be assured through individual gun ownership — in 1868, people saw the right as also focused on private arms ownership aimed at protection against crime. The Freedmen's Bureau Act of 1866 (surely not intended by Congress to preserve states' powers to maintain their own armed military forces!) provided that

in every State or district where the ordinary course of judicial proceedings has been interrupted by the rebellion . . . the right to make and enforce contracts, to sue, be parties, and give evidence, to inherit, purchase, lease, sell, hold, and convey real and personal property, and to have full and equal benefit of all laws and proceedings concerning personal liberty, personal security, and the acquisition, enjoyment, and disposition of estate, real and personal, including the constitutional right to bear arms, shall be secured to and enjoyed by all the citizens of such State or district without respect to race or color, or previous condition of slavery [emphasis added].

Likewise, debates over the Fourteenth Amendment repeatedly referred to the need to protect freedmen and Union sympathizers from attempts by state governments to disarm them, and thus leave them vulnerable to criminal attack. An updated Second Amendment is thus at least as much an individual right as the original one.

2. Here's another way, which I disagree with, but which some might urge: We should look at what the public today thinks about the Second Amendment. If we do this, we see that the overwhelming majority of Americans believe that the Second Amendment secures an individual right to-bear arms: For instance, in an abcnews.com poll from earlier this year, 73 percent took that view, and 20 percent took the states' rights view.

Or perhaps the right question under this popular-sovereignty theory is whether the public thinks we should have the right-to-bear arms. The result would probably be similar: For instance, a Freedom Forum First Amendment Center poll earlier this year found that 48% of respondents saw "the right to own firearms" as "essential," and another 31% saw it as "important."

3. Here's a third way to gauge evolving standards — look to how Americans see this right as reflected in state constitutions. These constitutions, after all, are formal expressions of the public's will, and not just polls. But they are much easier to change than the federal constitution, so they should better reflect evolving views.

If we consider this, we'll see that Bills of Rights in 44 of the 50 state constitutions secure a right-to-bear arms. Most of them are quite explicit in securing an individual right, but I think all of them have to be understood this way: A Bill of Rights in a state constitution surely can't secure a right of the state, or of a small group selected and controlled by the state; it secures a right against the state.

What's more, since 1970, 14 states all across the country have either added a right-to-bear arms provision to their state Bill of Rights, or strengthened an existing one. Here's the most recent one, enacted in Wisconsin in 1998 by a 74 percent-26 percent vote: "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose."

4. So under all these approaches, the right-to-bear arms should be read as forcefully today as in 1791 — or perhaps more so. What then do people mean when they say that "evolving standards" should lead courts to reject the individual rights view of the Second Amendment? Seems to me there's only one meaning: That judges should look not to the Framers, not to the 1868 Ratifiers, not to state constitutions, and not even to polls — but only to what they think is right, or perhaps to what the social class to which they belong (elite urban lawyers) thinks is right. You don't like a constitutional right, your honor? You don't think it makes sense today? No problem! Just evolve it out of existence.

"The very purpose of a Bill of Rights," Justice Jackson wrote in the 1943 flag-salute case, "was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections." Words to live by, it seems to me.

— Eugene Volokh teaches First Amendment law at UCLA School of Law.


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1 posted on 12/06/2002 10:59:51 AM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
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2 posted on 12/06/2002 11:01:54 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
Say the Ninth Circuit was wrong, last year's Emerson decision from the Fifth Circuit was right, and the Framers thought of the Amendment as securing an individual right. Shouldn't judges update it due to the passage of time, based on evolving standards of justice and practicality?

I was just about to lambast him for even posing such an asinine question, but he shot it down later, so I held my fire.

3 posted on 12/06/2002 11:06:33 AM PST by dead
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
The Constitution can live and breath - but should only do so through the amendment process - as per the will of the people of this country. It was never meant to live and breath with the radical interpretations of a few men and women sitting on a high bench. Allowing the Supreme Court justices to read anything at all into the Constitution is like letting them write a new one.
4 posted on 12/06/2002 11:07:13 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
Not reported in the Boston Globe; ignored by the ACLU.
5 posted on 12/06/2002 11:15:19 AM PST by pabianice
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
"One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."

The 2nd is about having the ability to resist tyranny from the inside or to resist being conquered from the outside. That's the polite translation. The more precise one is that the citizens must retain the means to shoot every bastard politician who trys to usurp liberty. Jefferson would have heartily approved.

6 posted on 12/06/2002 11:18:11 AM PST by 45Auto
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
In the body of the Consititution itself, the framers dealt with the topic of fielding an Army and Navy. To believe that the framers were so stupid as to propose an unarmed military is the penultimate statement of ignorance. If one believes that Amendment 2 was written to guarantee the government's right to keep and bear arms, then that person is an a$$.

The entirety of the Bill of right spelled out further restriction on the powers of the federal government. Don't believe me, here are the words of the founders written in the most forgotten words of the founders...

The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

7 posted on 12/06/2002 11:29:30 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
The Second Amendment as written was meant to apply only to the federal government So, a government has to pass a law giving itself the right to have a weapon? What kind of crap is THAT?
8 posted on 12/06/2002 11:30:51 AM PST by Puppage
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
The Second Amendment as written was meant to apply only to the federal government

So, a government has to pass a law giving itself the right to have a weapon? What kind of crap is THAT?

9 posted on 12/06/2002 11:31:23 AM PST by Puppage
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To: Puppage
Our Constitution was intended to enumerate all of the legitimate government powers and leave all non-enumerated powers to the State's or to the people.
10 posted on 12/06/2002 11:42:58 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Puppage
The Ninth Circuit should be ignored.
11 posted on 12/06/2002 11:46:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
The Supreme Court’s Thirty-five Other Gun Cases: What the Supreme Court Has Said about the Second Amendment
12 posted on 12/06/2002 11:55:07 AM PST by michigander
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Disbanded sounds much nicer....
13 posted on 12/06/2002 12:00:15 PM PST by Puppage
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Disbanded sounds much nicer....
14 posted on 12/06/2002 12:00:16 PM PST by Puppage
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To: Puppage
Yup !
15 posted on 12/06/2002 12:07:35 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: pabianice
Evolving constitution? A can of worms I wouldn't want to open. Okay, so they change one part. Would they stop there? Algore's evolved constitution would evolve to:
To each according to his needs . . . .
16 posted on 12/06/2002 12:09:14 PM PST by Warren
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To: Warren
"Algore's evolved constitution would evolve to: To each according to his needs . . . ."

And Al Gore would, of course, be the one deciding what those needs are.

17 posted on 12/06/2002 12:12:23 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: Puppage
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Unlike the first amendment the words, "Congress shall make no law", do not appear. The fourteenth amendment is moot here. The States can not violate the plain meaning of the Constitution by taking our guns.

18 posted on 12/06/2002 12:15:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: michigander
Thanks for the link. That looks to be a great resource.
19 posted on 12/06/2002 12:22:07 PM PST by Badray
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To: yendu bwam
Aren't those generally classified as SCOTUS PENumbras?
20 posted on 12/06/2002 12:29:34 PM PST by MHGinTN
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