The Supreme Court: Unlocked Doors and Whitey

IntellectualConservative.com ^ | Friday, December 6th | Brian S. Wise

[Tina Johnson]

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[Abcdefg]

I think the sodomy law should be upheld. This isn't about consensual adult sex in private bedrooms. This will legalize sex in public places, like parks that kids could go to "once upon a time".

[Karsus]

HOW WILL THIS LEGALIZE SEX IN PUBLIC???

There are already laws about sex in public. Each time this is brought up someone says that it will legalize sex in public.

[Abcdefg]

In Texas, it is still illegal to publicly expose your anus in a provocative manner. And I'm glad.

[Tina Johnson]

The careful distinction is made in the column regarding this being a privacy concern, not a public concern.

[Tina Johnson]

As it should be. Yikes.

[FreedomCalls]

It may not legalize sex in public, but it will legalize prostitution via call girls as long as it's done in the privacy of one's own home (a la Tom Cruise in Risky Business). By extension, it could even legalize prostitution in places of business.

[Karsus]

What does that have to do with your previous statment?

Once again, how could this ruleing leagize public sex?

[Tina Johnson]

I'm not seeing the connection between two gay men and legalized prostitution. Could you elaborate a little?

[AZLiberty]

This is a state's rights issue. There's nothing in the U.S. constitution that delineates a right to sodomy, hence it's up to the states. Given that there are 37 states which permit it, there's still plenty of opportunity.

Of course, this is equally true of the abortion issue, which the Supreme Court decided on its own.

[Abcdefg]

I think this is a case of principled people defending the actions of degenerate scum. The results may not be what you expect.
If you take your kids to a public park, watch them carefully. I doubt if the perverts you wish to defend can turn off their urges when they leave their bedrooms.

[Tina Johnson]

It's addressed with, "Put aside for a moment the normal arguments regarding whether or not one has a constitutional right to sodomy," followed by the overall point. It's never said in the column that it's anything other than a State's right issue, just that the Supreme Court will be reviewing it.

[Tina Johnson]

First of all, I'm not defending anyone, so don't shoot the messenger. Secondly, try reading the column again and understand the point it's making instead of reacting emotionally.

[Tina Johnson]

And again, men and women doing these things is also included in the group, which you would have known had you actually read the column.

[ModelBreaker]

I agree it should be upheld. But for only one reason. The US constitution does not prohibit states from passing sodomy laws.

The sodomy statute would be upheld ONLY if the Court is willing to extend the highly imaginative Roe vs Wade right to 'privacy' to sodomy. There was never any constitutional basis for Roe vs Wade. There is none for the sodomy laws.

[FreedomCalls]

I'm not seeing the connection between two gay men and legalized prostitution. Could you elaborate a little?

If consensual sex between consenting adults conducted in the privacy of one's bedroom is of no concern to the state (between two gay men), then how could it take a stand against consensual sex between consenting adults conducted in the privacy of one's bedroom (between a paid prostitute and a john)? It's the exact same argument.

[Karsus]

Should I be concerned (assuming you are married) when you and your husband or wife go out in public? After all, you might not me able to control your urges.

[Karsus]

If it is legal for some to do in their bedroom but illegal for others does that not violate the equal protection under the law clause of the US Constitution?

[Karsus]

If it is done in private what does it matter? It is not like it is hurting anyone (except maybe those involved in it)

[Tina Johnson]

Now I see. But it's not the issue at hand here. Everything taken to an illogical enough length can become a slippery slope in theory.