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The Supreme Court: Unlocked Doors and Whitey
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | Friday, December 6th | Brian S. Wise

Posted on 12/06/2002 5:57:06 PM PST by Tina Johnson

The Supreme Court will hear three cases that should be of particular interest to conservatives, as the subsequent rulings could put significant weight behind two of the Right’s grander tenets. First, Lawrence v. Texas, in which the Court will determine the validity of anti-sodomy laws in 13 States, concerning the 1998 arrests of John Geddes Lawrence and Tyron Garner, who were caught in Lawrence’s apartment engaging in acts of sodomy. (The two eventually plead no contest and paid $200 fines.)

Now most Right-wingers will read that and wonder, “What conservative tenet does this address, exactly?” None, unless you take seriously Ronald Reagan’s long held wish to get government off of the people’s backs and out of their lives. President Reagan was speaking of the federal government, of course, but taking the extra step to include State and local governments is not only desirable but logical, at which point one must admit getting off of one’s back should include not giving a damn what happens in his bedroom, provided all are adults, all consent and the neighbors aren’t being kept awake. (All right, that last bit is self-serving, but still.)

We are speaking here of laws in 13 States banning sodomy, nine of which are for both sexes (Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia), the other four pertaining strictly to gays (these are Texas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma). How does a municipality go about enforcing said laws, exactly? In the case of Lawrence and Garner, a false report about an armed intruder was made to police, who then walked into the unlocked apartment and proceeded to make a federal case out of it. Literally. If not for an unlocked door, these State laws would probably be allowed to stand. And let’s make no mistake about it, they should all be overturned.

Put aside for a moment the normal arguments regarding whether or not one has a constitutional right to sodomy, or whether or not the integrity of the anti-AIDS crusade can be upheld, and consider just this: Part of having and enjoying autonomy – and in this it is meant the autonomy of human beings, not just American citizens – is being able to make up one’s mind regarding those activities not necessarily typical of his contemporaries. A man or woman of sound mind and majority can choose whether or not to undergo or skip cancer treatments, whether or not they can be kept alive artificially should some horrible trauma befall them, whether or not their organs can be harvested and donated to those in need. To suggest the same adults who are presumably capable of making these decisions cannot decide rationally on the matter of oral and / or anal sex, and must therefore be overseen by law (no matter how generally unenforceable) is ludicrous. It’s an idea that supplants the ability of adults to decide for themselves what happens within their own walls; private walls, after all.

The second and third cases are Gratz v. Bollinger and Grutter v. Bollinger, in which the Court will consider the University of Michigan’s open race-based preference admissions policy. Here two white students were turned away from the University’s undergraduate and law schools respectively in favor of “minority applicants.” The interest to conservatives is obvious: It should be said by the Supreme Court that every man and woman trying to get into college should be considered by the weight of their intellect, not the color of their skin (to adapt Reverend King’s well spoken expression).

It’s fine for one to wish upon the Court the wisdom to make the proper decision (and I do), but how come no one has ever complained about racial preferences on the University’s basketball court and football field? The University of Michigan has for years produced basketball and football teams that have not only contended for Big Ten and national championships, but have won them, as well. At some point the dictum “Whitey Really Isn’t Needed Here, Unless He’s a Quarterback or a Center” came from on high, and not so much as one fit was ever pitched. Weren’t nitwits brought onto campus for the sole purpose of putting the University within shouting distance of one championship or another (Yes; e.g., Chris Webber), and therefore haven’t large bags of cash been dumped on administration desks, one after the other, as a result?

Well sure, that’s because we’re talking about sports, and the standards there have come to be held at different levels for sports teams, especially in large Division 1-A schools like … well … the University of Michigan. So the Right should know, in this matter, even if the Court rules on the side of logic, there will always, always, be race-based preferences on the college campus, some preferences just stated more loudly than others.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: supremecourt
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1 posted on 12/06/2002 5:57:06 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Tina Johnson
I think the sodomy law should be upheld. This isn't about consensual adult sex in private bedrooms. This will legalize sex in public places, like parks that kids could go to "once upon a time".
2 posted on 12/06/2002 6:27:04 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
HOW WILL THIS LEGALIZE SEX IN PUBLIC???

There are already laws about sex in public. Each time this is brought up someone says that it will legalize sex in public.
3 posted on 12/06/2002 6:30:20 PM PST by Karsus
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To: Karsus
In Texas, it is still illegal to publicly expose your anus in a provocative manner. And I'm glad.
4 posted on 12/06/2002 6:33:56 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
The careful distinction is made in the column regarding this being a privacy concern, not a public concern.
5 posted on 12/06/2002 6:34:26 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Abcdefg
As it should be. Yikes.
6 posted on 12/06/2002 6:35:04 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Karsus
It may not legalize sex in public, but it will legalize prostitution via call girls as long as it's done in the privacy of one's own home (a la Tom Cruise in Risky Business). By extension, it could even legalize prostitution in places of business.
7 posted on 12/06/2002 6:36:11 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: Abcdefg
What does that have to do with your previous statment?

Once again, how could this ruleing leagize public sex?
8 posted on 12/06/2002 6:37:04 PM PST by Karsus
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To: FreedomCalls
I'm not seeing the connection between two gay men and legalized prostitution. Could you elaborate a little?
9 posted on 12/06/2002 6:37:15 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Tina Johnson
This is a state's rights issue. There's nothing in the U.S. constitution that delineates a right to sodomy, hence it's up to the states. Given that there are 37 states which permit it, there's still plenty of opportunity.

Of course, this is equally true of the abortion issue, which the Supreme Court decided on its own.

10 posted on 12/06/2002 6:40:46 PM PST by AZLiberty
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To: Tina Johnson
I think this is a case of principled people defending the actions of degenerate scum. The results may not be what you expect.
If you take your kids to a public park, watch them carefully. I doubt if the perverts you wish to defend can turn off their urges when they leave their bedrooms.
11 posted on 12/06/2002 6:41:40 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: AZLiberty
It's addressed with, "Put aside for a moment the normal arguments regarding whether or not one has a constitutional right to sodomy," followed by the overall point. It's never said in the column that it's anything other than a State's right issue, just that the Supreme Court will be reviewing it.
12 posted on 12/06/2002 6:43:27 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Abcdefg
First of all, I'm not defending anyone, so don't shoot the messenger. Secondly, try reading the column again and understand the point it's making instead of reacting emotionally.
13 posted on 12/06/2002 6:45:03 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Abcdefg
And again, men and women doing these things is also included in the group, which you would have known had you actually read the column.
14 posted on 12/06/2002 6:46:12 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Abcdefg
I agree it should be upheld. But for only one reason. The US constitution does not prohibit states from passing sodomy laws.

The sodomy statute would be upheld ONLY if the Court is willing to extend the highly imaginative Roe vs Wade right to 'privacy' to sodomy. There was never any constitutional basis for Roe vs Wade. There is none for the sodomy laws.

15 posted on 12/06/2002 6:47:53 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Tina Johnson
I'm not seeing the connection between two gay men and legalized prostitution. Could you elaborate a little?

If consensual sex between consenting adults conducted in the privacy of one's bedroom is of no concern to the state (between two gay men), then how could it take a stand against consensual sex between consenting adults conducted in the privacy of one's bedroom (between a paid prostitute and a john)? It's the exact same argument.

16 posted on 12/06/2002 6:48:45 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: Abcdefg
Should I be concerned (assuming you are married) when you and your husband or wife go out in public? After all, you might not me able to control your urges.
17 posted on 12/06/2002 6:49:05 PM PST by Karsus
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To: AZLiberty
If it is legal for some to do in their bedroom but illegal for others does that not violate the equal protection under the law clause of the US Constitution?
18 posted on 12/06/2002 6:50:04 PM PST by Karsus
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To: FreedomCalls
If it is done in private what does it matter? It is not like it is hurting anyone (except maybe those involved in it)
19 posted on 12/06/2002 6:50:45 PM PST by Karsus
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To: FreedomCalls
Now I see. But it's not the issue at hand here. Everything taken to an illogical enough length can become a slippery slope in theory.
20 posted on 12/06/2002 6:51:39 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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