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The Supreme Court: Unlocked Doors and Whitey
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| Friday, December 6th
| Brian S. Wise
Posted on 12/06/2002 5:57:06 PM PST by Tina Johnson
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To: Karsus
A sad response. And plain dumb too.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:11:16 PM PST
by
bvw
To: Abcdefg
1: True. But you are taking this to the extreme.
2: So it is now a crime if I have my door unlocked. Silly me.
3: Yes. But local standards should have no effect on what consenting adults do in THEIR OWN HOME as long as no one else is harmed.
4: But is still was their home.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:12:19 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: FreedomCalls
The column wasn't about unintended consequences. It was about those three Supreme Court cases. The format is limited. It's a column, not an essay.
To: Tina Johnson
"bedroom" being used here inclusively. You've never had sex on a couch? Come on.
Isn't that getting a bit personal? Should I ask you how you like to do it? Of course not, Tina. I like to keep private what should be private.
If those two in Houston had simply locked the door before engaging, we would likely not be having this discussion.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:13:05 PM PST
by
Abcdefg
To: bvw
This coming from someone that seriously thinks that seting up some towels makes a private area. private areas are already defined in the law.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:13:39 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: Tina Johnson
Yes, it is the State's business. That was my point. There is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting the states from enacting sodomy laws.
The laws predate the Constitution, in fact, and no one had the slightest notion when that document was drafted, that all of them would become "null and void."
Yes, if you agree with Algore that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document" that suddenly has become morally relativistic, I guess you can make that argument.
But as a strict constructionist I reject such.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:13:42 PM PST
by
Illbay
To: meyer
Well, I have to ask - Is conventional (normal, heterosexual) sex between consenting adults in privacy prohibited in some states? I don't believe so. "Conventional (normal, heterosexual) sex between consenting adults in privacy" is prohibited in all states except Nevada if money changes hands.
To: Abcdefg
You'd have thought Texas would have passed the "Texas Gays Should Lock Their Doors Before Buggery" law by now. Silly me.
To: Abcdefg
So it is now illegal to have your door unlocked?
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:15:42 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: bvw
Homosexual sodomy is a criminal act -- if a culture is a good enough one to see an evil for an evil. Are we a culture that confused?Homosexual sodomy is weird - I find it extremely repulsive. But, it is apparent that a handful of people don't. The reach of law ends at the threshold of each person's castle, to be passed only upon warrant of activity that pose a threat to society for whatever reason. As long as it stays behind closed doors, I don't see it as a threat to society.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:15:58 PM PST
by
meyer
To: bvw
But what about the states (We are speaking here of laws in 13 States banning sodomy, nine of which are for both sexes (Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah and Virginia)) that make it illegal for Man and Wife?
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:16:45 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: Illbay
Understood. But no one has yet to explain how ani-sodomy laws are at all to a State's best interests.
To: Tina Johnson
Good idea! Instead, we have the no buggery law.
I agree with whatIllbay has written in this thread. This is a states rights and community standards issue.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:18:07 PM PST
by
Abcdefg
To: Karsus
But local standards should have no effect on what consenting adults do in THEIR OWN HOME as long as no one else is harmed. Including allowing prostitution?
To: Abcdefg
If those two in Houston had simply locked the door before engaging, we would likely not be having this discussion.So, in Houston, the Police can cross the threshold if the door is unlocked? Isn't this the same PD that decided to arrest, among others, late night K-Mart shoppers and diners at Sonic's restaurant?
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:18:41 PM PST
by
meyer
To: Illbay
I can see it clearly. I just do not think the state has any right to get involved in the sex lives of its citizens.
It is also amazing to see "conservatives" who hate big goverment want to get the goverment involved on issues they don't like.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:18:44 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: FreedomCalls
Does the prostitution harm anyone else?
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:19:27 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: meyer
Someone called them and they were investigating the call.
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:19:59 PM PST
by
Abcdefg
To: Karsus
I just do not think the state has any right to get involved in the sex lives of its citizens. Including criminalizing prostitution?
To: meyer
Yes. Police abusing their power is ok just as long as it is for a "good" cause.
:->
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posted on
12/06/2002 7:20:22 PM PST
by
Karsus
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