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“Nelson Mandela’s Legacy” [Africa Ping]
On the Right Side ^ | George V. Caylor

Posted on 12/08/2002 10:21:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

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To: Tailgunner Joe
Uh, looks like a good location for a Predator to target with a Hellfire. Many problems soved in a split-second!
61 posted on 12/08/2002 4:26:52 PM PST by toddst
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To: SteveTuck
Did you oppose apartheid?

You may as well ask if we oppose apartheid in Israel.

64 posted on 12/08/2002 4:56:50 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: goldenboy
Lets get real here ....do I think that western culture peoples be seperated from "savages" ...yes!

Then we don't have much to discuss. In my opinion, apartheid was a morally indefensible political and economic system.

By the way, the blacks are not savages. They lack an education because the white-minority government denied them that opportunity for generations.

65 posted on 12/08/2002 5:08:30 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You may as well ask if we oppose apartheid in Israel.

Did you oppose apartheid in South Africa?

66 posted on 12/08/2002 5:09:17 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I wasn't well informed back in the 80s. You are asking us what we thought back in the dark ages, before Windows 95. Tell me, what was your first word as a baby, and how did you say it? It's about as relative. What people think today matters more, don't you think?

I asked a simple question and got this nonsense in response. Once again, what would you have done if your government had gradually taken away your political rights and eventually stripped you of your citizenship?

67 posted on 12/08/2002 5:10:58 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: toddst
What's so awful about separatjng the living areas of blacks and whites? The integration folks got all hung up on this and started focusing on punishing the white minority for having the wrong "attitudes" about blacks and whites.

Because the white-minority government forced 70% percent of the population to live on 13% to 14% of the national territory.

Because the white-minority government forced 70% percent of the population to live on the most worthless land.

Because the white-minority government forcibly moved 3.5 million blacks from land designated for whites to reservations.

Because the white-minority government stripped blacks of South African citizenship and their remaining civil and political rights.

Because blacks violated pass laws if they were in an urban area for more than seventy-two hours without having obtained special permission.

Because the General Laws Amendment Act allowed the police to hold suspects for up to six months without reporting their arrests.

Because the white-minority government eliminated the requirement of equality for racially segregated facilities.

Because the white-minority government prevented blacks from receiving education for jobs traditionally reserved for whites.

Because blacks were unable to purchase land in white areas.

Because blacks were unable to live in white-owned areas and work as sharecroppers.

Need I go on....

68 posted on 12/08/2002 5:19:09 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: SteveTuck
I opposed the Communist takover of South Africa.
70 posted on 12/08/2002 5:20:48 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: toddst
Given time, the economic situation for blacks would have improved within South Africa under apartheid.

Before or after the government forcibly moved them to homelands and revoked their citizenship?

71 posted on 12/08/2002 5:21:23 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I opposed the Communist takover of South Africa.

So, you supported apartheid?

72 posted on 12/08/2002 5:22:23 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: SteveTuck
Is it an either-or question?

hint: if you're a communist, the answer is 'yes'.

74 posted on 12/08/2002 5:26:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SteveTuck
So you support political murder?
So you support Communism?
So you support murderous Black Nationalism?
So you support the AIDS crisis?
I conclude that you like to ask open-ended questions that infer others support apartheid if they oppose Mandela, like the old legal 'How long has it been since you stopped beating you wife?' Philosophically disingenous, and in my opinion, politically stultifying. When I'm faced with two evils, I fight them both, to spite small minds like yours with relish. What are your thoughts on Liberty? (lol)
75 posted on 12/08/2002 5:32:19 PM PST by Darheel
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To: SteveTuck
Before or after the government forcibly moved them to homelands and revoked their citizenship?

You aren't listening to anyone but yourself. Have you heard anything that's been said about the movement of blacks into South Africa from neighboring countries seeking jobs?

Why would the whites have an obligation to absorb all these immigrants and provide services and opportunities to however many job-seekers who entered ?

Now lets see, might we be describing the very situation we are experiencing in the US with an endless flow of illegal immigrants into our country? Hmmm . . . .

76 posted on 12/08/2002 5:35:36 PM PST by toddst
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To: toddst
You aren't listening to anyone but yourself.

Still waiting for you to answer the first question I asked you. What would you do if your government gradually took away all your political rights and eventually stripped you of your citizenship?

Have you heard anything that's been said about the movement of blacks into South Africa from neighboring countries seeking jobs?

Yes. Does not make apartheid any less objectionable.

Why would the whites have an obligation to absorb all these immigrants and provide services and opportunities to however many job-seekers who entered ?

Because they created the mess with their racist policy.

77 posted on 12/08/2002 6:17:35 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Darheel
So you support political murder?

I would probably resort to violence if my government took away my political rights and citizenship.

So you support Communism?

Never

So you support murderous Black Nationalism?

See #1

So you support the AIDS crisis?

Never

I conclude that you like to ask open-ended questions that infer others support apartheid if they oppose Mandela, like the old legal 'How long has it been since you stopped beating you wife?' Philosophically disingenous, and in my opinion, politically stultifying. When I'm faced with two evils, I fight them both, to spite small minds like yours with relish.

How would you have fought apartheid?

What are your thoughts on Liberty? (lol)

Strongly support, for blacks and whites.

78 posted on 12/08/2002 6:21:12 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Darheel
What are your thoughts on Liberty?

What about the liberty of the blacks taken away by the white-minority government?

79 posted on 12/08/2002 6:22:40 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: SteveTuck
What about the liberty and property of whites taken away by the black majority(Bolsheviki)?
80 posted on 12/08/2002 6:29:27 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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