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“Nelson Mandela’s Legacy” [Africa Ping]
On the Right Side ^ | George V. Caylor

Posted on 12/08/2002 10:21:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

Two weeks ago we discussed my 1985 trip to Africa, and my observations of chaos in the making.

In 1985 I took my Dad Glenn Caylor with me on an extended safari into the African “bush”. We were hunting some really big game including the Namibian Eland which weighs over a ton and can jump over a ten foot fence - easily.

One night we were driving back from hunting on the Botswana border and had a flat tire in the middle of nowhere. Americans can hardly fathom the term “nowhere” unless they’ve traveled the Outback of Australia or the Kalahari Desert.

Our guide Hennie Koetse’s flashlight was broken so we had to build a small fire to light our work. Our stop and the fire made me nervous because we had been informed earlier that the communist African National Congress (ANC) had been in the area attacking farms and killing farmers. The Republic of South Africa sent in an anti-guerilla unit to ‘suppress’ the violence. The action was fairly close to us and I could imagine myself in some communist guerilla’s crosshairs. Obviously we made it through the night with no casualties.

Most of us have heard of the African National Congress and its most famous member, Nelson Mandela. He was one of the founders of the ANC and was an avowed communist. Mandela was sentenced to life in prison for murdering a policeman and several black magistrates.

Under pressure from America, Nelson Mandela was released from his life sentence. He was then immediately elected as Republic of South Africa’s president.

While Mandela was in prison, he exerted a great deal of power and influence over the affairs of RSA. His wife Winnie was a communist agitator who instigated the torture deaths of dozens of blacks who did not want to be communists. Her most common death-by-torture device was the “necklace” which I won’t describe. It’s just too barbaric. Winnie, however, became the darling of the American press and graced our television sets nightly with her rhetoric. Due to her communist leanings, our press overlooked and forgave her little torture hobby.

How has Republic of South Africa fared since it elected Nelson Mandela as its leader? According to our own Jesse Jackson, South Africa is now “an international role model of what can be. Truly a Utopia. A miracle.”

Before we look at South Africa today, we need to remember that this country once had the lowest crime statistics, the highest employment and one of the best health care systems in the world. Blacks from black-governed neighboring countries crossed into “white racist” South Africa by the millions. When I was there, doctors made routine cost-free visits to everyone’s homes. The economy was strong, people were well-fed, healthy and safe.

Let’s take a look at Mandela’s new so-called “miracle” and see if it holds water.

“The culture of South Africa has become so deformed that we no longer have respect for the rights of others. No state on earth has failed as dismally as ours to meet the fundamental test of any civilization: to enforce law and order, to protect the lives and property of its citizens.” - Police Commissioner George Fivaz.

The problem was ANC’s new laws that protected the rights of everyone but law-abiding citizens. Over 20,000 of South Africa’s most highly trained policemen and women resigned or took early retirement from the force. This left a gap that criminals soon exploited. (Sound familiar?)

Another problem is with the ANC’s new justice department. Of every 109 murders, only nine result in a prison sentence. In other words, you can literally get away with murder 90% of the time.

South Africa is now the “rape capital” of the world - more than double the rate of any other country. Rape cases are seldom, if ever, prosecuted. Black women suffer in silence and their rapes are no longer even reported.

One in three black adults are infected with the AIDS virus. This will leave the country decimated much the same way as neighboring Kenya and Uganda where entire villages are comprised of only the very young and the very old. Their inhabitants of sexual activity age are dead.

I have two friends working as missionaries to those villages. They are building orphanages, clothing the children, and teaching them to survive. The working adults are simply no longer there.

Finally, unemployment has risen to nearly 50%. Of course, blacks now have the vote. And in every election, their black leaders tell them how to vote. Not exactly the freedom promised by Mandela. Jesse Jackson had it wrong. The “new” South Africa doesn’t sound quite like paradise to me. But maybe it is to him.

© 2002 by George V. Caylor. All rights reserved. George Caylor is a wealth planner and syndicated writer in Lynchburg, VA. To read past columns or e-mail him, go to www.OnTheRightSide.com [or the source link at the top]


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You can also here his daily one minute radio speeches there. "A hard hitting slice of conservative thinking"
1 posted on 12/08/2002 10:21:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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Permission was given to post this to promote his web site. I would like to add, George Caylor has an excellent conservative radio program. The only problem is that it's only one minute long and only heard on one or two radio stations. He calls his program "a hard hitting slice of conservative thinking". Indeed, it is. FReegards....
2 posted on 12/08/2002 10:24:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Mandela was sentenced to life in prison for murdering a policeman and several black magistrates.

Do you think he received a fair trial?

3 posted on 12/08/2002 10:26:53 AM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
South African Crime Report

4 posted on 12/08/2002 10:32:15 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I think he may exaggerate how low the crime rate was earlier. Alan Paton's Cry, the Beloved Country, written in the 1940s, depicts urban crime as a major problem and something South African whites were already obsessed with. I believe Paton's widow left South Africa because of the crime problem (post-majority rule).
6 posted on 12/08/2002 10:40:11 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Funny, my wife recalls me telling her when Tutu got the peace prize, South Africa was "on its way" to oblivion.
Didn't take that long I guess.............SAD!
7 posted on 12/08/2002 10:43:03 AM PST by litehaus
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To: SteveTuck
Even Amnesty International said NOTHING about Mandela because he was justly tried and sentenced to life in prison. He was not mistreated by their standards....
8 posted on 12/08/2002 10:54:35 AM PST by eccentric
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"Mandela was sentenced to life in prison for murdering a policeman and several black magistrates." This is the first time I have heard this. All I have ever read before was that Mandela was jailed for being anti-apartheid. The American (or Anti-American) Media couldn't be honest and candid if their lives depended on it! Thanks for posting the truth. Now I know.
9 posted on 12/08/2002 10:56:25 AM PST by ChicagahAl
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To: goldenboy
he did...whats your point?

How do you know that he received a fair trial? Seems rather odd, since the white-minority government stripped blacks of all their political rights under apartheid.

Do you believe that Biko starved to death?

10 posted on 12/08/2002 11:01:04 AM PST by SteveTuck
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Wrong. Amnesty International refused to recognize Mandela as a "prisoners of conscience" because of his decision to engage in a campaign of sabatoge against the white-minority government. Amnesty International will not grant "prisoners of conscience" status to anyone that uses nor advocates violence.
12 posted on 12/08/2002 11:07:41 AM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
WLNI at 2:30 pm.

13 posted on 12/08/2002 11:14:32 AM PST by TwoSue
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
South Africa is now the “rape capital” of the world...

According to our own Jesse Jackson, South Africa is now “an international role model of what can be.

Sounds like a good place for Jesse and his friend Bill to visit frequently.

15 posted on 12/08/2002 11:25:42 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: goldenboy
I was there its was called the Rivonia trial and was watched by ever liberal group on the planet who all stated it was a fair trial...the charge was.. treason

Did you observe the trial? Did Mandela have the same rights that whites were afforded at that point in time?

Didn't think so...

As for Steve Biko I often find it amusing how so many Americans always try to defend communists...he was a terrorist sometimes stuff happens to bad guys

As an American, I believe that police should not beat prisoners to death. Silly me...

By the way, how would you have brought apartheid to an end if you were a black South African?

16 posted on 12/08/2002 11:33:41 AM PST by SteveTuck
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Simple question -- Did you oppose apartheid? If so, how would you have brought apartheid to an end?
18 posted on 12/08/2002 11:44:22 AM PST by SteveTuck
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To: goldenboy
which brought a long era of political stability and economic prosperity to South Africa.

Too bad the white-minority government stripped the blacks of all their political rights and eventually their citizenship.

By the way, you could make the same statement about the Soviet government.

19 posted on 12/08/2002 11:53:26 AM PST by SteveTuck
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--mistake Number One after the Mandela trial--failing to hang him as a traitor deserved--
20 posted on 12/08/2002 12:34:02 PM PST by rellimpank
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--mistake Number One after the Mandela trial--failing to hang him as a traitor deserved--

And how would you respond if your government gradually took away all of your political rights and eventually stripped you of your citizenship?

21 posted on 12/08/2002 12:38:54 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: rellimpank
--mistake Number One after the Mandela trial--failing to hang him as a traitor deserved--

10-4. Sometimes one pays a terrible price for trying to be "civilized." Per hanging, I prefer firing squads - instant and very final death appropriate for use when dealing with traitors.

22 posted on 12/08/2002 12:43:57 PM PST by toddst
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And how would you respond if your government gradually took away all of your political rights and eventually stripped you of your citizenship?
23 posted on 12/08/2002 12:50:14 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: SteveTuck
And how would you respond if your government gradually took away all of your political rights and eventually stripped you of your citizenship?

You are saying this is the justification Mandela had for murder and participation in attempts to violently overthrow the government? I don't buy that arguement.

The ANC fully intended to destroy the government and capitalist system of South Africa IMO. They succeeded. And how has this helped the black population?

You are very new to FR. Provide some information on yourself. We have no frame of reference on you. Let's start there.

24 posted on 12/08/2002 1:08:03 PM PST by toddst
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To: ChicagahAl
All I have ever read before was that Mandela was jailed for being anti-apartheid.

That was my impression, too. They got away with countless lies prior to the internet/talk radio network. That's one thing I like about Caylor. He's been gathering and filing away info for a lo...ong time. FReegards....
26 posted on 12/08/2002 1:28:35 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: BrowningBAR
When the Mexicans, radical blacks, and the rest of the ethnic lobby splits this country up like a fat pie and takes the spoils. Uh, what a frightful destiny THIS country is headed for.

I appreciate your concern but don't believe any combination of groups will be dividing up the US. We need to stop the invasion no doubt and I'm confident we'll do just that. Being negative won't help BTW.

27 posted on 12/08/2002 1:41:02 PM PST by toddst
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To: toddst
Dick Morris did more than anyone else to wake us up about the flood of illegal immigrants. It has people scared. You will see a lot more fear before it's over, and prophets of doom will pop up that will drive you nuts. It's all part of the pressures that bring change.

As for South Africa, the socialists did a great job of spreading discord there. One mistake was to triple the minimal wage. What a disaster that was.
28 posted on 12/08/2002 1:45:57 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: SteveTuck
Too bad the white-minority government stripped the blacks of all their political rights and eventually their citizenship.

I remember hearing back then how black Africans were flooding into South Africa. If it was so bad, why did they keep coming in?

30 posted on 12/08/2002 1:47:58 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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As for South Africa, the socialists did a great job of spreading discord there. One mistake was to triple the minimal wage. What a disaster that was.

10-4. They didn't (don't) understand or accept free-market forces. Throw an arbitrary floor under wages and watch the economy change - going the wrong direction.

Jobs leave when these goofy kind of rules are dropped on the marketplace. Kind of like what's being promoted now around the US - this "living wage" feel-good thingy.

31 posted on 12/08/2002 1:53:44 PM PST by toddst
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I'll be as I like, BTW.

Well you revealed yourself, newbie. All those quotes tell us much less than your cute picture. You just be as you like and stay part of the problem rather than the solution.

32 posted on 12/08/2002 1:58:25 PM PST by toddst
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I remember hearing back then how black Africans were flooding into South Africa. If it was so bad, why did they keep coming in?

You make a good observation. Of course, blacks went in for jobs in a strong economy. Then our looney PC left just couldn't let a white minority run the place. Kill the goose was their philosophy, apparently. It worked and now look at the place. Amazing.

33 posted on 12/08/2002 2:03:39 PM PST by toddst
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Caylor also mentioned the immigration point, but I also remember hearing it back then, too. It was the strongest argument the conservatives had. All their predictions seem to have come true.
34 posted on 12/08/2002 2:19:34 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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All their predictions seem to have come true.

10-4. If there is a shortage of labor then immigration becomes attractive in one respect. However, too many too fast and all sorts of problems pop right up - like we're experiencing now.

Despite those who are presently too critical of George W, I'm confident we'll get the inflow of illegals under control. It does take time to overcome eight years of selfish, liberal, sluglike behavior (do I have to sat THAT name?)

35 posted on 12/08/2002 2:29:03 PM PST by toddst
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Well you know, I like to hear that name mentioned in historic reference. But to have fun with that name, we should rename toilets in his honor.
36 posted on 12/08/2002 2:37:51 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: toddst
Changing our border policy will require a certain level of criticism of GW. It's sad, because I think he's a good man and in most ways, he's right on. But this problem could, as mentioned by others, become our Kosovo.
37 posted on 12/08/2002 2:39:53 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
. . . to have fun with that name, we should rename toilets in his honor.

You got THAT exactly right, sir!

38 posted on 12/08/2002 2:40:13 PM PST by toddst
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To: BrowningBAR
I would recommend explaining what you mean by that flag burning pic.
39 posted on 12/08/2002 2:44:33 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: toddst
The Clinton.


40 posted on 12/08/2002 2:45:54 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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. . . this problem could, as mentioned by others, become our Kosovo.

I don't disagree, IF the border and illegal numbers problem isn't dealt with. I have confidence we'll get the job done, with George W. showing us the way. Now, we have an obligaton to help, push on our Congressmen. Hey, this IS America after all! We've faced worse than this before.

41 posted on 12/08/2002 2:48:34 PM PST by toddst
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How to Honor Clinton:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/803090/posts

42 posted on 12/08/2002 2:53:14 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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How to Honor Clinton.

10-4, LOL!

43 posted on 12/08/2002 2:57:01 PM PST by toddst
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I have confidence we'll get the job done, with George W. showing us the way.

I don't expect people to change their behavior unless something in their life changes. GW has not been taking the border problem seriously. He's great about insisting on conservative judges, willing to confront the ABA. He's great about sticking to his guns on tax cuts. He's great the way he led us to victory over the Taliban. But Geraldo on Fox News showed just how vulnerable the Mexican border is, and nadda. Zip. GW has done nothing but make the Mexico border problem worse. Quite simply, there's a big fly in the ointment.

This reminds me when people kept saying that GW was going to handle the Clinton investigations better than we think. He was going to 'play it close to the vest'. Heck. He put the cards right in his pocket! It didn't buy it then. And I don't buy it now.

It's good to be confident and optimistic. But trust someone to change when no logical reason is given to explain why, and you are on the road to disappointment.

44 posted on 12/08/2002 3:00:42 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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--blacks for several thousand miles used to go to South Africa to work in the diamond and gold mines for a year or two after which they could go home, buy some cattle and some wives and live like a king, relatively speaking--there was no opportunity like anywhere else on the entire continent--
45 posted on 12/08/2002 3:13:12 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: SteveTuck
--if I was committing treason, I might expect to lose some of my rights, upon conviction--maybe even my life--
46 posted on 12/08/2002 3:15:25 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
It's good to be confident and optimistic. But trust someone to change when no logical reason is given to explain why, and you are on the road to disappointment.

We all have our own take on situations. I never saw any true gain in George W. pushing the Clinton investigation. We would have bogged down and President Bush would have quickly been characterized as small-minded or some such.

There was no forward motion going to come from focusing our energies on looking back, not to mention the 9-11 horror landing on us all. We needed leadership and got it.

I'm confident George W. will deal with the border problems, but those are not the only issues on the table right now as you know.

47 posted on 12/08/2002 3:19:19 PM PST by toddst
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--blacks for several thousand miles used to go to South Africa to work in the diamond and gold mines for a year or two after which they could go home, buy some cattle and some wives and live like a king, relatively speaking--there was no opportunity like anywhere else on the entire continent--

Yessir, exactly! Not unlike the Hispanics coming north to the US. We DO have to address this or the situation will get out of hand. As I said elsewhere, I expect President Bush will address the illegal immigration flood effectively, with our help.

48 posted on 12/08/2002 3:24:59 PM PST by toddst
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To: rellimpank
Simple question -- Did you oppose apartheid? If so, how would you have brought apartheid to an end?
49 posted on 12/08/2002 3:32:00 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Simple question -- Did you oppose apartheid? If so, how would you have brought apartheid to an end?
50 posted on 12/08/2002 3:32:35 PM PST by SteveTuck
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