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To: AdamSelene235
"Lets do a little Gedanken experiment."

That's NOT a Gedanken thought experiment. A Gedanken thought experiment is what you do AFTER your opponent bases his logic on something NOT happening. In the Gedanken experiment, you then show how his logic falls apart if things DO happen.

To wit: U.S. versus Miller. In that Supreme Court case the Justices wrote that Miller was indeed in violation of federal law because he did not (there's that key word) show that his sawed off shotgun was a military weapon. And that sounds all great on the surface until you do a Gendanken thought experiment and realize that if Miller HAD shown that his weapon was used by U.S. troops in their most recent war experience (e.g. in the trenches in the Great War), that clearly he was abiding by Constitutional law.

141 posted on 12/17/2002 7:56:56 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Sigh. You're falling apart tonight Southack. Physicists use the term to denote *any* thought experiment.

gedanken

/g*-dahn'kn/

"Gedanken" is a German word for "thought". A thought experiment is one you carry out in your head. In physics, the term "gedanken experiment" is used to refer to an experiment that is impractical to carry out, but useful to consider because it can be reasoned about theoretically. (A classic gedanken experiment of relativity theory involves thinking about a man in an elevator accelerating through space.) Gedanken experiments are very useful in physics, but must be used with care. It's too easy to idealise away some important aspect of the real world in constructing the "apparatus".

142 posted on 12/17/2002 8:01:51 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Southack
That's NOT a Gedanken thought experiment

Can't win the primary argument, huh?

143 posted on 12/17/2002 8:04:59 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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