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To: Hank Kerchief
I thought this was pretty much a conservative forum

Have you repaid all the money your "parasite" parents spent on you to bring you your self-sufficient station in life?

12 posted on 12/10/2002 11:44:38 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Have you repaid all the money your "parasite" parents spent on you to bring you your self-sufficient station in life?

I understand your argument but it doesn't hold up ... particularly these days when most parents feel they've done their part by not aborting the things and at least feeding them through age 18.

Many of us are blessed with parents and family who not only fed, clothed and sheltered us but bestowed much love and ensured that we obtained the education, endured the discipline and were granted the extras which allowed us to live life to the fullest.

Many are not.

I don't think you can premise the honoring of parents on how well the parents honored you as a their child. I realize that's only human but also "only human" is the fact that honoring the parents is one of those essential elements of natural law that pops up in all sorts of civilizations ... absolutely separated by time, proximity, culture and faith.

Most folks always wish better for their kids than they had themselves. I think perhaps the math of the equation lies somewhere therein. It must be an excrutiatingly painful journey to triumph over the errors of one's own parents such that you can do for them what they never once did for you but I suspect it's still the right thing to do.

19 posted on 12/11/2002 12:10:47 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Texasforever; dighton; Askel5; Sandy; general_re; redrock
Have you repaid all the money your "parasite" parents spent on you to bring you your self-sufficient station in life?

I guess liberal Republicans think the appropriate way of discussing issues is to call other people's parents names. My parents were never parasites. They earned their own living and supported themselves to the end.

I do not know if you have children, but if you do, I pity them. I would never consider what I did for my children imposed an obligation on them to "pay me back." Everything I have done for them I have done by my choice for my enjoyment of nourishing, supporting, and raising them to be decent self-sufficient, moral individuals. The only, "reward," I sought is the one I receive every day in observing them enjoying successful adult life. There is something essentially evil about those who think their children "owe" them something.

Have a dekko at the Ten Commandments: honoring one's father is a Good Thing.

Since when does the commandment, "Honor thy father and mother," abrogate the commandment, "Thou shalt not steal." Your way of obey one commandment is by breaking another.

So ... it's not so much "Republican" or "Democrat" but rather the Materialists v. the rest of us.

A materialist is one who is concerned about material things, like food, clothing, houses, medicine, and money, which represents those material goods produced by the honest effort of decent men. A non-materialist is concerned with things like feelings, and "good-will," and whatever else has neither substance or any practical use. If non-materialists were honest, they would not want the materialist's money, and food, and medicine. Instead, when someone is in "need" we ought to write them a poem, sing them a song, and pray for them. After all, who wants to burden others with all those nasty material things.

Randian Selfishness and soulless capitalism pitted against death to self and a natural moral law that trumps the marketplace.

These people do a lot of talking about, "death to self," and it would no doubt help if they demonstrated this, but they cannot. What it really means is that everyone else should be ready to "die" so they can more easily be fleeced by the non-materialists.

Whereas, the non-materialist could live at someone else's expense forever without batting a moral eye, the materialist, like Sandy would say:

Old and poor is better than being a thief. I'll die before I ever force other people to take care of me.

I'll take this ruthless soulless materialistic morality any day to that mushy, "natural-moral-law," that makes everyone a slave to everyone else. Please spare me your mutual parasitism parading as morality.

Social Security is NOT welfare. I am 4 years away from being eligible and what I would get is actually pocket change but you can bet the farm I am going to collect it because for 30 years I was forced to pay the maximum amount into it. However, the best part is it pisses off drones like you and the Hanky.

Here is a nice example of the altruist-collectivist morality. It is morally right, according to this view, to force others to pay because, "for 30 years I was forced to pay." (The correct name for forced payment is extortion.) This "two wrongs make a right," morality could have been applied to the slavery problem too, and might have been if these liberals had been around then. Instead of freeing the slave, the slaves should have been allowed to have slaves too. Come to think of it, that's exactly what is being done. "I've been enslaved by the government for 30 years, now it's my turn to enslave all those younger then me."

These people never thought of identifying the SS program for the evil that it was and fighting it. It was much easier to go along with evil and wait for their chance to impose it on others. This is exactly the kind of compassionate concern for others that can be expected from them. All that stuff about concern for the old, the sick, the disabled is a big cover-up for their intention to grab all the unearned benefit they possibly can, without a moments concern to how much suffering that causes to others.

The one good thing about mooches and parasites is they are also arrogant, and plainly identify themselves as those terrified of being responsible for their own lives and preparing for their own future. It is helpful that they are this way so that decent folk can avoid and protect themselves from their intended thefts.

Rabid Ruthless Individualist - Hank

55 posted on 12/11/2002 9:00:02 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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