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Hollywood Appeasers: Another "peace" coalition by a bunch of left-leaning celebs but with a twist
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | December 11, 2002 | Paul Bond

Posted on 12/11/2002 5:05:43 AM PST by SJackson

Actors Mike Farrell, Matt Damon and Martin Sheen do not want the United States to go to war with Iraq.

Therefore, along with 97 other celebrities, they have formed a group called Artists United to Win Without War.

What the public didn't see at their Tuesday press conference is far more significant than the formation of yet another peace coalition by a bunch of left-leaning celebrities like Jessica Lange, Anjelica Huston and Elliott Gould.

What that significant development is, is the healthy dose of skepticism displayed by the mainstream press at Tuesday’s well-covered Hollywood event.

But first, the group’s statement, scheduled to appear soon in select newspapers:

"War talk in Washington is alarming and unnecessary.

"We are patriotic Americans who share the belief that Saddam Hussein cannot be allowed to possess weapons of mass destruction. We support rigorous United Nations weapons inspections to assure Iraq’s effective disarmament.

"However, a preemptive military invasion of Iraq will harm American national interests. Such a war will increase human suffering, arouse animosity toward our country, increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks, damage the economy, and undermine our moral standing in the world. It will make us less, not more, secure.

"We reject the doctrine – a reversal of long-held American tradition – that our country, alone, has the right to launch first-strike attacks.

"The valid U.S. and U.N. objective of disarming Saddam Hussein can be achieved through legal diplomatic means. There is no need for war. Let us instead devote our resources to improving the security and well-being of people here at home and around the world."

Now for the significance.

An NBC reporter immediately set a skeptical tone for the spirited question and answer session, asking group co-chair Farrell if Artists United to Win Without War isn’t made up of celebrities who were also against the Gulf War a decade ago. Wouldn’t the world be an even more dangerous place if Hussein was not ousted from Kuwait and U.N inspectors weren’t brought in to Iraq back then?

The deft former star of M*A*S*H* said he would have preferred it had the elder President Bush explored "options short of war" before expelling Hussein from Kuwait.

Then Sheen was asked by a couple of reporters why it is that President Bush would threaten war against Iraq if Hussein presented little or no threat to the U.S.

"I don’t know if we’ll ever get the whole truth from this administration – about anything," he answered.

Pressed again as to the president’s motives, Sheen attributed them to mere family pride. "I think he’d like to hand his father Saddam Hussein’s head," Sheen said.

Then there was this exchange between a reporter and Sheen:

"Would you like to see Saddam Hussein overthrown?" the reporter asked.

"I don’t know what you mean," Sheen answered.

"Removed from power," said the reporter.

"I don’t even know what that means," Sheen said.

The undaunted reporter pressed on. "Regime change," he explained.

"I’d like to see that come from the Iraqis, not the Americans," Sheen finally conceded.

Not wanting the other reporters to have all the fun, I asked if, assuming our military were to overthrow Hussein quickly and with few casualties, and then Iraqi citizens were shown dancing in the streets and praising America for liberating them from a torturous dictator, would the Artists United to Win Without War rethink their position? Would they consider they might be wrong, and say so publicly?

Sheen offered, "I’m always open to the possibility that I’m wrong."

The bulk of the answer, though, came from Farrell, who made the point that, just because some Iraqis might applaud such a removal of Hussein, doesn’t make it the right thing to do.

"The idea that somehow the end justifies the means, as you’re suggesting, is exactly contrary to the principles on which this country was founded," Farrell said.

"The idea you suggest, forgive me, is an inappropriate one," he scolded.

The best bit of levity came at the close of the hour-long event. It had been suggested by some of the dozen celebrities in attendance that Artists United to Win Without War was nonpartisan.

Asked to name a Republican among the group, Farrell claimed there were some, but quipped, "I don’t want to out them."

In a room full of skeptical reporters who clearly were not there to rubber-stamp Hollywood’s latest political effort, the very revealing joke went over quite well.


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To: MNChestyPuller
I'd like to see the combined income and lifestyle of these rich hypocrites!

'Champions Of The Poor'

I'll bet they were all paid to sign (autograph) the stupid crap!

Artists
Signing
Stupid
Egregious
S**t

141 posted on 12/11/2002 3:59:21 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: b-cubed
Well thanks for clearing that up grumpy.
142 posted on 12/11/2002 4:09:36 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: SJackson
Weren't some of these whack-offs among the opinionated "Hollyweird Generals" who lambasted Bush-41 because he "failed to get Hussein" in Desert Storm. Now they're upset because Bush-43 is determined to do it???
143 posted on 12/11/2002 5:43:24 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: ClancyJ
Clancy, most of what you just asked in your post would have been shouted down and interrupted all through by these clowns.

The LAST THING they want to hear is logic like this spoken cleanly without confusing interruption loudly injected so that the minds of the listeners cannot digest it.

144 posted on 12/11/2002 5:50:29 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: doug from upland
In 1776, Mike Farrell would be scrubbing tar and feathers off his carcas and no lawyer in his right mind would have gotten within 500 feet of him with a business card.
145 posted on 12/11/2002 5:55:07 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: SJackson
"Would you like to see Saddam Hussein overthrown?" the reporter asked.

"I don't know what you mean," Sheen answered.

"Removed from power," said the reporter.

"I don't even know what that means," Sheen said.

Denial or stupidity? You decide.

146 posted on 12/11/2002 5:58:15 PM PST by Rocko
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To: KSCITYBOY
I'll tell you all how to hurt them and hurt them BADLY!!!

It all starts at ground level. You contact the sponsors of commercials these people appear in and remind them what was done with KMart (Rosie O'Donut) and Pepsi (Ludicris).

For those not doing commercials, you call and write advertisers of these "stars" television programs and threaten the same boycotts.

If there is one of these "stars" who doesn't fall into either category, call your local Television stations and threaten a boycot of THEIR programming until they pull the syndicated Hollyweird reporter "magazine" shows that glorify these boneheaded gasbags!

It isn't like they can't find anything else to air from 4:00 to 6:00 and 7:00 to 8:00.

147 posted on 12/11/2002 6:10:06 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
>> Would it be un-PC to suggest that we refer to them as 'Target-Rich Environment'? How about 'Big Bundle O'Traitors', available at Sam's Club?

You know, there's a marketing opportunity here...Take their group photo and blow them up lifesize onto a piece of cardboard...Them make thousands of them and market them to outdoor sports shops as TARGETS...Just donate the proceeds to the families of the victims of 9-11.

149 posted on 12/11/2002 6:41:10 PM PST by Wondervixen
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To: Conservative Druze
It's just funny to see you guys foam at the mouth over a bunch of great actors with not-so-great foreign policy astuteness.

"Great actors" is a bit strong for those on the list I've seen act. I'll do my best not to foam at the mouth: it's a constant struggle.

Anyway, welcome to FR. Your home page is quite interesting, and I mean that as a compliment, not a veiled "disruptor alert."

150 posted on 12/11/2002 6:49:57 PM PST by dighton
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To: KSCITYBOY
They spend their lives pretending and saying what they are told to say. Whose script are they now acting out? and who cares?
151 posted on 12/11/2002 6:54:33 PM PST by 6AL-4V
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To: All
You know, it is kind of funny that Martin Sheen, a man that didn't bring up his son right enough to stay away from prostitutes, can pass judgement on anyone.
152 posted on 12/11/2002 7:07:13 PM PST by Morrigan
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To: Britton J Wingfield
No R Lee Ermey would not have gone for this. Although a few minutes with the man who plays "Gunny Claus" (when he was in character) would have been most instructive for the leftists. :-)
153 posted on 12/11/2002 7:23:46 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Wondervixen
Right. Maybe we should stress why they are willing to risk my life and the lives of my family with their "negotiate" stance.

I think they just like the limelight in a controversy with the President of the United States. Makes them feel as if they too are a power player. In reality they are ignorant and show it.
154 posted on 12/11/2002 7:28:42 PM PST by ClancyJ
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Hey! Check this out! Commies on the move.
155 posted on 12/11/2002 7:28:52 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: ClancyJ
Wondervixen has it right.

Look at the line-up. What you have, for the most part, are B-List entertainers between gigs or past their prime.

While I don't doubt the sincerity of their foolish convictions, I suspect none of these clowns will object to the publicity the petition will bring them. A little notoriety might even help a few of the flagging careers represented in the letter.

I think it also instructive that prominent Hollywood leftists like Julia Roberts, Tom Hanks and Steve Spielberg haven't lent their names to this enterprise.

My hunch is the trio share the views expressed by the 100. Nonetheless, all three enjoy widespread commercial popularity. Why risk that in a backlash from Main Street theatergoers and video renters who probably support war against Iraq?

By contrast, the signatories are either known as much for their liberal activism as their acting (and thus were long ago immunized against backlash) or niche performers whose narrow constituencies will either overlook this statement or agree with it.
156 posted on 12/11/2002 8:01:35 PM PST by MadeInOhio
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To: Morrigan
You know, it is kind of funny that Martin Sheen, a man that didn't bring up his son right enough to stay away from prostitutes, can pass judgement on anyone.

It's almost like these peace types use their war protests as a cheap way to gain moral credibility with the little people. When someone calls them on their womanizing, or drug use, or elitism, or any of their many moral failings, they can point to their 'courageous' stand against President Bush's 'evil, immoral' war. They're just like their hero, Bill Clinton, who insults our intelligence by claiming that he tried to get Osama. As if that makes up for what happened, or for any of his other many, many moral and ethical lapses.

157 posted on 12/11/2002 8:20:56 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: SJackson
Oh Al, you're such a loser like that other Al!


158 posted on 12/11/2002 9:38:11 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: SJackson
I was disappointed at first to see Gillian Anderson on the list. I usually liked her in her role as "Dana Scully" in X-files. Then I realized I was (more recently) sickened by her performance in "House of Mirth."

I have to agree with this review--

[House of] Mirth, based on Edith Wharton’s novel, is an awful film that features some of the worst acting to deface the big screen in quite some time.  The X-Files' Gillian Anderson is so howlingly awful in the lead role, it actually boggles the imagination.

159 posted on 12/13/2002 5:16:53 AM PST by syriacus
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