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Ruling may mean end of Mojave cross "Separation of Church & State again" ^
      Posted by gitmo
On 07/26/2002 6:36 PM PDT with 21 comments

National Park Service To Remove Cross From Mojave Park. ^
      Posted by marshmallow
On 11/03/2000 7:39 AM PST with 31 comments

1 posted on 12/13/2002 12:56:50 PM PST by comwatch
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To: AntiJen; Saundra Duffy; farmfriend; Grampa Dave; B4Ranch
I think you all know how we feel about any messing with memorials to our war dead... looks like we could win this one if the pressure is kept up and a few calls made. Please pass on to anyone you think might go the extra distance. From the prior posts it didn't seem to ignite a lot of passions... with events to come, seems like as good a time as any to draw the line in the sand.

I've had trouble getting through to Rep. Lewis' office the past day or two, will post a better contact when I do.
2 posted on 12/13/2002 2:00:09 PM PST by comwatch
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To: First_Salute; gitmo
First Salute:

I very much enjoyed your take on this issue from an earlier posting on Free Republic. (First link of two) I was particulary struck by your comment below, and would seek permission to include it on our website's front page under the story post.

You wrote: "Our individual Liberty and our individual responsibility, our duty, require us to exert our authority as the people, to bear down upon judges, lawyers, and "legal experts" who mock the sincere efforts of George Washington and our forebears."

As one who constantly uses the vehicles of Public Records Act and Freedom of Information Act, one of my other sites (http://crimewatch.us) expresses "Legislative intent" versus reality:

Preamble to the California Public Records Act:

"The people of this state do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people insist they may retain control over the instruments they have created."

Ahhh yes... but my spin...

The California Legislature may have authored these words, lofty by any standard, but in practice, "we the people" have tolerated government's obstructionism, duplicitous denials, prevarication and outright intolerance to the Public's right to know. Where such arrogance thrives, so do does unchecked corruption.

Edmund Burke may have said, "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." If we do not convert our words into an action, our voice is lost in the forrest of apathy.

More than a handful of people need to hear your message and act on it. Thank you for the insights.

Gitmo...

I hope you'll stay on this issue and help ignite an action plan.
3 posted on 12/13/2002 2:37:00 PM PST by comwatch
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To: marsh2; dixiechick2000; Helen; Mama_Bear; poet; Grampa Dave; doug from upland; WolfsView; ...
pinging the old Klamath list for support.
4 posted on 12/13/2002 6:59:38 PM PST by farmfriend
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To: comwatch
I rememember a particularly tough time for me...19yr old combat medic...

Our platoon had been pretty much decimated by a 105mm artillery shell the VC put up in a tree and detonated on a river crossing...followed again a few days later by two more along a trail..

One of my best friends in the platoon had been killed and died while I was giving CPR..

The next night I remember laying out on an ambush patrol...doing a lot of thinking praying talking to God...I dont think I could have hung on without Him...most of the guys found some sort of relationship with God about that time..

To come home to have the commie kids spit on us...and now to have the POS ACLU have the audacity to use the "constitution" to force the relatives to take down their cross in the middle of the desert that they have tended in memory of their dead for years...their children , fathers brothers husbands...who died to have the ACLU use their deaths to opress the living...and
To spit on the lives of their loved ones..is to take away the very meaning of a soldiers life and death..

Sometimes is more than I can bear...I really hate these commie bastards..they are the most traitorous group in America today..imo
16 posted on 12/16/2002 11:24:24 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: comwatch
I suggest that those who are offended by the cross go out and confront those who are maintaining the cross directly

I suggest that the offended party get its affairs in order first, however. The folks I know who can live in the desert and prosper are more than a bit tough and tend toward surly when unnecessarily bothered.

17 posted on 12/16/2002 2:02:57 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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