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'Lord' films run rings around the rest because of words
St Paul Pioneer Press / Chicago Tribune ^ | 12/12/02 | MICHAEL WILMINGTON

Posted on 12/14/2002 6:35:39 AM PST by Valin

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To: Festa; ksen
Thanks for setting me straight. I stand corrected. :)
81 posted on 12/16/2002 9:41:02 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Dan Day
The scenario in the film is a guy (Wood) involved with two women..

I haven't seen the movie, but was he involved with two women at the same time in the same bed? If so, why are you arguing with me? Argue with your dictionary.

82 posted on 12/16/2002 10:23:28 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Republican Party Reptile; PJ-Comix
Other than that why would a straight person even want to go to such a bar? To listen to the music?

A publicity stunt. Homosexuals get lots of work in Hollywood, but teases get even more. He probably paid the fan to call The Star.

83 posted on 12/16/2002 10:25:51 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
<<< A publicity stunt. Homosexuals get lots of work in Hollywood, but teases get even more. He probably paid the fan to call The Star. >>>

And really, why do you care? Aren't you being just a little bit obsessed?

84 posted on 12/16/2002 11:28:12 AM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Republican Party Reptile
And really, why do you care? Aren't you being just a little bit obsessed?

Why do you care why I care? Are you a psychoanalyst wannabe? Why would that comment make me obsessed? I just find narcisistic people like actors (and politicians) to be pretty predictable. I think I heard on FOX news that Wynona could have avoided a trial, but NO! Shoplifting trials = publicity.

Oops, there I go again...

85 posted on 12/16/2002 4:57:27 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: stuartcr
What a moral dilemma.

I realize that in the scope of things in the real world, this is quite trivial, but still, if I was completely true to my convictions, I wouldn't see this movie.

However, I will avoid anything new with Vigo in it.

Mark

86 posted on 12/16/2002 5:42:26 PM PST by MarkL
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To: Liberal Classic; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; JenB; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
>Perhaps you should read it before condemning it.

I don't have to visit a whorehouse, a drug house or a porn movie house to know they are evil.  The Bible says I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple [innocent] concerning evil.  It says to set nothing wicked before one's eyes and describes sorcery and enchantment in detail in Deut. 18 and condemns it.  Have you read the Bible?  If not, try it...and google:

 Google Search: "Lord of the rings" occult OR satanic - 11,300 hits

First site up above is a witchcraft link; try the second:

 Tolkien's Lord of the Rings: Truth, Myth or 'Discovered Reality"? -- Berit Kjos [C.S. Lewis discussed here]

 The Lord of the Rings: Paganism, Christianity or Syncretized.... -- Cutting Edge

87 posted on 12/17/2002 3:15:51 AM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
Oh - So its the number of Google hits that matter?

I can play the game!

Google Search: Christian "Lord of the Rings" - 90,100 hits.

I win!

88 posted on 12/17/2002 5:30:48 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2sheep
I have and do read the Bible, thank you very much. I know the difference between that which is wickedness from what is a harmless children's story.

There is no sex in Lord of the Rings to speak of save a couple of political marriages, and the only drugs are alcohol and tobacco. There was magic in the Chronicles of Narnia also. Have you read Perelandra?
89 posted on 12/17/2002 7:28:29 AM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: MarkL
What's the use of having your own convictions, if you can't change them without feeling guilty?
90 posted on 12/17/2002 9:10:01 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: 2sheep
You can't use your own brain to determine if a movie is evil or not?
91 posted on 12/17/2002 9:12:35 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: 2sheep; HairOfTheDog; Liberal Classic
Tilting at windmills, again?

legend

/"led()nd/ noun 1 traditional story, myth. 2 colloquial famous or remarkable person or event. 3 inscription. 4 explanation on map etc. of symbols used.
1 epic, folk-tale, myth, saga, story, tradition.

I. Legend and Myth

The English term "legend" is derived, through Middle English, Old French, and Medieval Latin, from the Latin legendus, meaning "that which is, or has to be read." Originally, a legend was something to be read at religious services or meals, a story supposed to provide spiritual uplift, such as a saint's or a martyr's life. In modern usage legend is a traditional narrative, handed down for generations among a group of people, and popularly believed to be true - that is, to have a historical basis. However, although legends often do include historical personages and facts, the stories they tell are not verifiable and cannot be considered historical records. Frequently the legends tell of wonderful or miraculous events, and their protagonists are kings, princes, heroes, saints, and pious individuals.

Introduction to:

Gates to the Old City
A Book of Jewish Legends
Selected and translated by
Raphael Patai

A book of Jewish Legends and including Bible, Apocrypha, Talmud, Midrash, Kabbala, Hasidism and Jewish Folktales

***

Just as God gave great powers to the forces of holiness, as is plain from the exploits of patriarchs and prophets, so He gave great power to the forces of profanity. This was in order to create tests of faith, so that people could choose between good and evil. Now, in his desperation for counsel, Saul resorted to this forbidden device to call upon the spirit of Samuel.
Notes on 1 Samuel 28:11

Oh my, a story of occult behavior! Oh no, run away!!

***

Frodo : "Pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance."

Gandalf : "Pity ? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many who live deserve death, and some who die deserve life. Can you give it to them ? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends, but my heart tells me that Gollum still has a part to play, for good or ill. Before this is over, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many."

Frodo : "I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had ever happened."

Gandalf : "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time we are given. There are other forces at work in the world than the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the ring, which means that you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought. Ah ! It's this way."

The Fellowship of The Ring

So, Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment.

92 posted on 12/17/2002 9:13:54 AM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: Valin
It's going to be a late, great night for geeks. I have my ticket for 12:01 am late tonight.
93 posted on 12/17/2002 9:24:02 AM PST by Grig
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To: HairOfTheDog
"Oh I have used alas to replace a sigh! - Which can be a pleasant or unpleasant sigh! You say it is only negative?"

Yes. It means the same as "what a shame..."
94 posted on 12/17/2002 9:31:54 AM PST by Pravious
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To: 2sheep
So I suppose you'd like to see all of the norse,Icelandic sagas, Beowulf, Greek/Roman myths, the tales of king arthur, etc.... never read or studied?
You DO understand that these are at the foundation of all western lit.?

Iconoclasts begone.
95 posted on 12/17/2002 10:41:53 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian
>So I suppose you'd like to see all of the norse,Icelandic sagas, Beowulf, Greek/Roman myths, the tales of king arthur, etc.... never read or studied?

You said that.  I didn't.

>You DO understand that these are at the foundation of all western lit.?

America's foundation was built on Judeo-Christian principles from THE BIBLE along with a sin nature driven by the Masonic Illuminati.  The Biblical foundation has been destroyed and the Constitution trashed as Americans have yielded to sin and unrighteousness and its dark side has taking over, promoting homosexuality, abortion, licentiousness, satanism and the occult, despising its Biblical heritage and honoring Muslims instead.  

Ps 11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

>Iconoclasts begone.

I am not the inconoclast.  You are.  Be careful what you wish for.  If you want freedom to sin, G~d will give you over to believe a lie (He may have already), and you will reap the consequences.

iconoclast (ì-kòn´e-klàst´) noun
1. One who attacks and seeks to overthrow traditional or popular ideas or institutions.
2. One who destroys sacred religious images.
[French iconoclaste, from Medieval Greek eikonoklastês, smasher of religious images : Greek eikono-, icono- + -klastês, breaker (from Greek klan, klas-, to break).]
- icon´oclas´tic adjective
- icon´oclas´tically adverb
Word History: An iconoclast can be unpleasant company, but at least the modern iconoclast only attacks such things as ideas and institutions. The original iconoclasts destroyed countless works of art. Eikonoklastês, the ancestor of our word, was first formed in Medieval Greek from the elements eikon, "image, likeness," and -klastês, "breaker," from klan, "to break." The images referred to by the word are religious images, which were the subject of controversy among Christians of the Byzantine Empire in the 8th and 9th centuries, when iconoclasm was at its height. Those who opposed images did not, of course, simply destroy them, although many were demolished; they also attempted to have the images barred from display and veneration. During the Protestant Reformation images in churches were again felt to be idolatrous and were once more banned and destroyed. It is around this time that iconoclast, the descendant of the Greek word, is first recorded in English (1641), with reference to the Greek iconoclasts. In the 19th century iconoclast took on the secular sense that it has today, as in "Kant was the great iconoclast" (James Martineau).

96 posted on 12/17/2002 9:03:28 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
This is a homosexual, OCCULT version

? Don't you have anything better to do than pester adults?

97 posted on 12/17/2002 9:21:07 PM PST by freebilly
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To: 2sheep
The warnings of Scripture goes over so many heads! Alas, there are some who are so defiant, they will go to hell despite hearing the truth! Let 'em go!
98 posted on 12/18/2002 10:52:54 AM PST by babylonian
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