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Former Israeli PM: We're in a World War, Many civilians may die, but we have to win
Projo.com ^ | 12/11/2002 | KAREN LEE ZINER

Posted on 12/14/2002 1:19:20 PM PST by the_second_moon

Barak predicts long fight ahead 12/11/2002

BY KAREN LEE ZINER Journal Staff Writer

PROVIDENCE -- The Sept. 11 attacks changed the world forever, and underscored that "we are at war," former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak said at Brown University last night.

"The choice is clear," said Barak. "Destroy terror, or be destroyed by it."

Held under extremely tight security, Barak's appearance was hosted by the Brown Student Lecture Board. Students and VIP guests packed the upper hall of Salomon Center. The public watched a simulcast on the lower level.

"More than a year after 9/11, it is still a time of testing, and more tests still lie ahead," said Barak. "But the last 15 months have given us the nature of the world we are living through."

Advanced technology, and biological and chemical weapons have created "a frightening new state for the whole world," that places us "at the opening chapter of an epic struggle," said the 60-year-old former prime minister.

Barak predicted "a long fight, not just months, but years, maybe half a generation. Many civilians may lose their lives along the way," he said, "but we have to win this first world war of the 21st century. And we will."

During his hour-long talk, Barak stressed that in the war against terror, "the need to remove Saddam Hussein stands out more than anything else."

And, with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Barak said, "On a most profound level, this is the Palestinians' attempt to force suicide bombings on Israel as a new diplomatic tool, and I can tell you, Israel will never, never yield to it, period."

Barak's appearance drew several dozen protesters, who stood outside shouting, "Stop the killing, stop the crime . . . End occupation of Palestine."

They handed out fliers calling for opposition to "Israel's treatment of Palestinians, Israel's attempt to prod the United States into war with Iraq, and all those who oppose inceasing militarization of American society."

The tight security, which included Barak's traveling security team, Providence and Brown Security police, bomb-sniffing dogs, metal detectors and person-by-person inspection, slightly delayed Barak's scheduled 7 p.m. talk.

Channel 12 TV news cameras were turned away, apparently over failure to register in time, said a Brown University spokesperson.

BEFORE HE entered politics, Barak was the most decorated solider in Israeli history. In April 1991, he was appointed 14th chief of the general staff and promoted to lieutenant general, the highest rank in the Israeli military.

Barak became Israeli prime minister in 1999, but was defeated in special elections last year, after the failed negotiations at Camp David during the prior year spawned renewed violence.

Barak last night gave his account of the Camp David talks that were hosted by President Clinton in the summer of 2000.

Clinton put an offer on the table that called for giving "a Palestinian independent state -- that would be 90 percent contiguous," he said.

Barak said he was ready to take that proposal back to the Mideast "as a basis for negotiations," but Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat decided to "close the door behind it, and turn deliberately and consciously to suicidal terror."

Arafat does not recognize "the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state," he said.

He suggested the solution is to "strike back at terror," no matter where, to "focus on the Palestinian terror, not on the Palestinian people," and to make it clear that the door "is always open for negotiation, based on the principles of Camp David."

As for Saddam, the former Israeli prime minister said, "Those who prefer to wait should consider the following: no one really knows how close Saddam Hussein is to a crude nuclear device. And it was a crude nuclear device," he noted, "that destroyed Nagasaki."

If Saddam is allowed "to cheat the weapons inspectors one more year or two, we might be making an unforgivable mistake," Barak said.

"Though no one is willing to admit it now," he said, putting an end to the rule of Saddam Hussein "will change the geopolitical landscape of the whole Mideast."

The greatest risk, Barak said, "lies in inaction."


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To: Yehuda
imho it's a miracle that Arafat turned down the offer.

Not really. The US at the time, i.e. Clinton Inc., was his protector. He could do anything he wanted.
Hillary also became vey seriesly friendly with his wife. It was a hug and kisses relationship.

21 posted on 12/14/2002 3:07:12 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: KevinDavis
If need be, "Islam est delenda".
23 posted on 12/14/2002 3:33:05 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: the_second_moon
The author gave no indication how the speech was received by the students and staff, other than mentioning some protestors outside. Strange.
24 posted on 12/14/2002 3:41:28 PM PST by Gritty
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To: the_second_moon
As much as I think he's stating things correctly here, I can not help but be underwhelmed.

Why didn't Barak govern then like he talks now?

25 posted on 12/14/2002 3:46:05 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Yehuda
Barak sold his cojones to the Clinton's during the Israeli election... he is partly responsible for the crap we are all in. He should sit down and shut up.

If he opens his mouth it should be only to say, "I made a terrible mistake. I was wrong."

It's time for a major change in Israeli government. Bibi is good, but he has had his chance. Labour is in der erd. Shas party, gag-a-maggot.

I would like to see Effi Eitam as PM, or Nathan Sharansky.

26 posted on 12/14/2002 3:50:45 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Timesink
Same rank that George Washington topped out at before becoming president. Some armies don't suffer from rank inflation.
27 posted on 12/14/2002 4:02:02 PM PST by Maximum Leader
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To: jwfiv
So true. The Palie terrorists probably didn't even give a double-take to Barak in a dress, and if they did, it was because they were turned on, not repulsed.
28 posted on 12/14/2002 4:16:36 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: VOA
I still regard Barak with a cautious eye...but it took some courage to say these things at a place like Brown University..

It did indeed. People do change, and it appears that Barak has done so. I certainly didn't agree with his policies when he was PM, but his courage has never been in question. The man had a very distinguished military career.

29 posted on 12/14/2002 4:23:35 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: steveegg
Isalm, Islam; what's the difference

2 camels

30 posted on 12/14/2002 4:23:51 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: the_second_moon
Interesting article on the failed Oslo final status negotiations:

Barak began referring to the `Holy of Holies'

31 posted on 12/14/2002 4:31:30 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Rye
...his courage has never been in question. The man had a very distinguished military career.

I knew he'd been a very decorated soldier...
But I was suprised to hear him recounting his part in the covert operation to
take out that terrorist in Lebanon.

Although it was deadly business, I couldn't help chuckling a bit over the
thought of Barak dressed as a woman.
Like I said, that poor terrorist must have flinched on his trigger finger,
asking himself "What is this very ugly woman with a gun doing, breaking into my house?"
32 posted on 12/14/2002 4:38:08 PM PST by VOA
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To: the_second_moon
A most interesting post.
33 posted on 12/14/2002 4:43:42 PM PST by happygrl
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To: the_second_moon
What, no demonstration?

This is a great speech.
34 posted on 12/14/2002 5:38:34 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: Principled
He was a terrible, naive, foolish leader, and unsuited to the task of leading Israel.
35 posted on 12/14/2002 5:44:42 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: montag813
Have you ever heard of, That was then,this is now.

For over a year now he's been saying Oslo was a mistake.
36 posted on 12/14/2002 6:44:39 PM PST by Valin
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To: Stultis
Barak has been making a lot of sense lately; he is either now a born again Jew, or a born again Christian, and I don't think it is the latter.

Time for the Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa mosques and other Islamic disgusts to be removed from Jewish temple mount.

37 posted on 12/14/2002 8:36:41 PM PST by crystalk
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To: All
Oh BTW, some such move on Barak's part would be absolutely required if he were to have any political future at all.
38 posted on 12/14/2002 8:38:41 PM PST by crystalk
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To: the_second_moon; dennisw; veronica; BenF; TopQuark
<< Barak's appearance drew several dozen protesters, who stood outside shouting, "Stop the killing, stop the crime . . . End occupation of Palestine." >>

Yes let's.

The sooner every last one of those shirt lifting, turd burgling, death and destruction worshipping, insane-paedopihle and-false-fuerher following Jordanian, Egyption, Lebanese and Syrian islamanazi bastards is cleared the Hell out of God's Mountains -- out of Palestine -- the better!
39 posted on 12/15/2002 6:06:44 AM PST by Brian Allen
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