Debate - Should We Track All Vehicles?

Self | 12-15-02 | doosee

[steve50]

You sound like the typical big government guy doosee. Let's just get some program started, then we can expand it to do what we really wanted all along. Programs like this are usually backed by the "for the children" crowd, you might not have better luck pushing this at DU.

[steve50]

scratch the "not",

[johnny7]

You, sir/madam, are a usefull fool.

If you're scared of your own safety, buy a firearm and learn how to use it.

Don't tell me I need to be monitored by govt. hacks.

[hoosierham]

Yeah, and SEAT BELTS were voluntary at first,but now non-use is enough to be stopped by law enforcement and heavily fined.Apparent non-compliance with the seat-belt law also allows the police to begin questioning and searching for other violations of law. What is against the law is not the same as what is an evil act. Also the citation can result in insurance rate increases.

You are no Freeper, you are a shill for a Nanny State.

Toss the unconstitutional laws that try to prevent Americans from defending themselves and their familiy and property , DON'T toss freedom and privacy.

[doosee]

If you wanted to do this nationwide for every vehicle it would cost HUGE. Not even sure how many operational cars there are in the US but it ain't no small number.

I think the program is much less effective unless it was activated in every vehicle. You would have to factor in the costs of reducing stolen cars, theft, etc. and look at the cost to benefit analysis. I do know our insurance costs are huge right now.

[End Times Sentinel]

From your profile: The less government we have the better off we are.

You're just playing devil's advocate here, aren't you?

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

[B Knotts]

Sometimes I really, really wonder about a large proportion of the people on this site.

Perhaps there should be a sister site called "The All-Encompassing State."

[doosee]

You are no Freeper, you are a shill for a Nanny State.

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone had to start personal insults. My goal is to conduct an honest debate about this so I can learn and maybe some others. Do us all a favor and stay off the thread.

[The_Media_never_lie]

It is interesting to see comments from cowboy types who assume that just because government has information they will misuse it. We simply must at some point realize that times have changed and security must be increased.

[GirlShortstop]

A unique RF transmitter embedded and locked in a very unreachable place within a car would also be a possible solution. These technologies exist today yet I am unaware of any proposal to deploy this kind of solution to make all of us safer.

The bar code technology that is used currently is used for profit.  Your idea or solution is to utilize the technology for another goal: solution to make all of us safer.   I strongly believe in self-reliance and personal responsibility; your proposal falls outside of that framework because personal liberties may be forfeited.  Big Brother.

Let's face it.... life's dangerous; always has been, always will be.  IMO, it is imprudent to look to others, or forfeit to others that which makes your life worth living.  The only exception to that is to submit to a *perfect Being* for real peace of mind.  

Of course, that's *my* opinion... I could be wrong.  Freegards.

[Karsus]

Wrap the transmiter in Alumminum foil. No signal could make it out. It is that easy.

[Karsus]

A lot of abuse happens at home so the state should place cameras in each room of each home to stop abuse. It would not be watching YOU it would just be used for abuse. This would stop most, if not all, abuse. Are you saying that you would prefer abuse to continue?

[doosee]

You're just playing devil's advocate here, aren't you?

I haven't concluded how I would vote on this type of program. I admit I may trust our government more than most of the people posting here, but each to his own. I am a strong advocate of using technology across all spectrums to help make our lives better and safer. At the same time, I realize government workers are human beings, and if they are not carefully controlled, they will overstep the line. I have a lot of military and law enforcement related relatives and friends. Believe me, I trust them and agree with what they want. The anti government, police haters on Free Republic speak for themselves by what they post.

[GirlShortstop]

The conditions of use for this could also be that your vehicles location is searched ONLY when your family requests the location.

You've decided apparently to put a lot of faith in the trustworthy officials, no?

[pyx]

I would like to hear Freepers weigh in on whether this would constitute an invasion of privacy if our vehicles could be located any place at any time in real time mode or do you agree that this would be a proper use of high technology to help to ensure our safety?

Your question above is foolish. Having the government monitor where and when my car has travelled (presumably with me in it) is not much different from outfitting the general populace with a tracking braclet or tracking collar. And while you may not object to being herded like a farm animal, some of us still consider ourselves free men. You've chosen wording in your questions that seems closer to FLOATING AN IDEA rather than simple curiousity.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Don't ever give the government any power you would not want Hillary Clinton to have.

Very well said!

[chance33_98]

Much like gun registration I am left asking - how did our forefathers ever cope with things? If they wanted to take a horsey somewhere, they just went, if they wanted a gun they stopped at the local store and picked one up. No need to leave any info, have ID, etc.

We are trying to make society safer, at a cost of making it less free. I will take my chances with a more dangerous society. And I will keep a gun close by just in case :)

[doosee]

We simply must at some point realize that times have changed and security must be increased.

Thanks for a voice of reason out there. There can be no question that we are more vulnerable now than we were even 10 years ago. If Alice Donovan, for one example, could have pressed an alarm button on her keychain and activated a transmitter alarm, her life may have been spared. I understand that she may have been putting packages in the trunk of her BMW when the two thugs pulled in behind her car at the Conway Walmart.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

First of all, there are already systems out there that can track your cars. You simply have to purchase them. The On Star system comes to mind. If you want to be tracked, buy it. I'll take care of myself.

[GirlShortstop]

....a national monitoring system on a common standard would be required. Not sure if anyone other than Uncle Sam can do this...    or Auntie Hillary.

Post #33  Believe me, I trust them and agree with what they want. The anti government, police haters on Free Republic speak for themselves by what they post.

You asked for opinions and now dissenters to your idea get painted with a broad brush of inconsiderate labels?  Not wise... do you wish you could retract that?