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Sean Penn Says War in Iraq Is Avoidable
Yahoo News ^ | 12/15/02 | Alistair Lyon

Posted on 12/15/2002 8:39:16 AM PST by Libloather

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"Sean Penn Says War in Iraq Is Avoidable"


Maybe if we could force Saddam and the Republican Guard to
watch "Shanghai Surprise" a few times they would all commit suicide.War avoided
21 posted on 12/15/2002 9:25:21 AM PST by Paddyboy
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Sean WHO ????
22 posted on 12/15/2002 9:46:37 AM PST by navyblue
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To: Libloather
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams


23 posted on 12/15/2002 9:53:18 AM PST by geedee
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To: Libloather
I'd be delighted to debate Penn, and sum it up:

"As it turns out, sir, a British person is more loyal to America than you are."

Regards, Ivan

25 posted on 12/15/2002 9:56:07 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Libloather
SING FOR THE IDIOT
26 posted on 12/15/2002 9:58:26 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Libloather
Penn, a true thinks man's man. /sarcasm
27 posted on 12/15/2002 9:59:07 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: dep
Sean Penn is "a void and full of bull"....
28 posted on 12/15/2002 9:59:13 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Libloather
To sean penn: Go suck an EGG!
29 posted on 12/15/2002 10:07:10 AM PST by wharfrat
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To: Libloather
I wonder if this idiot has ever heard of the word, treason?
30 posted on 12/15/2002 10:15:20 AM PST by freekitty
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Why would anyone be interested in what this dunce has to say, particularly about foreign policy? It is a waste of bandwidth.
31 posted on 12/15/2002 10:30:04 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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Like CONSERVE, Excuse My Bellicosity and Citizen Tom Paine say, why should we care what these Hollywood personalities have to say? Well, sadly, they get more air time than Michael Jordan. Thank God, there are people like Chuck Heston and Tom Selleck. We must decline from an argument with ignorant participants.
32 posted on 12/15/2002 10:49:14 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Lizavetta
Money talks.
33 posted on 12/15/2002 10:54:19 AM PST by Sloopy
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To: geedee
Excellent!
34 posted on 12/15/2002 10:57:36 AM PST by Sloopy
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To: Libloather
Perhaps the draft should be reinstated, but restricted to zip code 90210.
35 posted on 12/15/2002 11:00:46 AM PST by Sloopy
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"And if there's going to be blood on my hands, I'm determined that it's not going to be invisible. That blood is not just Iraqi blood, it's the blood of American soldiers."

Actually, Sean is closer to the truth than he might realize.

When committing US troops to action, the President does have their blood upon his hands and therefore, those that put him in power have their individual share as well. The alternative, however, is to have the blood of the American civilian population on one's hands. So SecState Penn, which would you choose?

The power we give the Commander In Chief is indeed awesome and not to ever be used lightly. I am absolutely certain that each drop of blood that is spilled weighs heavily upon the soul of our President. This is his gift to us, that he will accept the responsibility and pay the price so that we may continue to live in freedom, even to the point of one of us talking nonsense at the feet of the most evil person walking the earth today. The President makes this terrible choice because he knows the alternative is unacceptable, unconscionable, and immoral.

In the terrible calculus of "blood on the hand," how far up the arm does the blood for September 11th go on those that had Osama signed, sealed, and almost delivered? What say you, Mr. Penn? What is your share of blood from that? If we accept your premise, Citizen Penn, that we all share in the blood spilt by our leaders, then let's talk about the Iraqis. What is the share of blood that the Iraqi people bear, given them by their unanimously chosen leader?

This is the crux of the matter when we talk of the death of innocents. This is why we first try sanctions, as sanctions are always upon the people themselves and never their leadership. This is why 1.5 million children die (has anyone ever come even close to verifying this media "fact"?) when the humanitarian aid is diverted to build 53 palaces and who knows what kinds of armament horrors. What a gift of blood Saddam gives to his people. Why, they are positively swimming in it. How can you avoid getting any of it on your shoes, Mr. Penn?

[By the way, I don't ever recall hearing one shred of moral outrage from Mr. Penn or his ilk (media included) when CNN and others played video from some of Saddam's palaces].

Ultimately, when a leader or a regime accumulates such a butcher's bill of blood for his people, it is their responsibility to make payment by ending their sanction of their reign. Should those people be unable, incapable, or unwilling to do so, then others must step in or the bill comes due for us all.

So thank you, Mr. Penn, for finally bringing this to our attention and making clear just how immoral are those alternatives to war. [/debate]

36 posted on 12/15/2002 11:00:58 AM PST by NonValueAdded
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"I have to start with bridging my own gap," he replied.
Start with the one between your ears.

37 posted on 12/15/2002 11:03:32 AM PST by Fintan
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To: NonValueAdded
Brilliant post. Wish I'd said that.


39 posted on 12/15/2002 11:05:12 AM PST by Fintan
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To: Libloather
Sean Penn Says War in Iraq Is Avoidable

Yeah, but then Joe Isuzu says it's not, so I don't know what to believe. I wish John Belushi were still alive; at least he remembered when the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor.

40 posted on 12/15/2002 11:05:22 AM PST by Nick Danger
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