Bill Offers Protection For Students Raised Here

San Diego.com ^ | December 15, 2002 | Leonel Sanchez

[eccentric]

Question: My kids have to have social security numbers to get into college. Aren't those only for legals? Are these illegals breaking more laws to get into college?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Are these illegals breaking more laws to get into college?

Many illegals use bogus SSN's, apparently colleges don't bother to check, or aren't required to. Some banks and other institutions are accepting matricular cards now, only illegal aliens would need them.

The whole system is turning into a scam, one set of laws for the lawbreakers and one for the rest of us.

[madfly]

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[Nephi]

Public opinion over immigration remains sharply divided.

Sharply divided between globalists and Americans.

[dennisw]

Don't these hacks ever think about the consequences? If this bill goes through you only encourage more illegal immigration of children and adults. Same for sham-nesties.........

[FITZ]

the Mexico native has been accepted to the University of California San Diego,

Would my US citizen kid be denied in-state California tuition just because he was born in Texas? I don't see how someone born in Mexico thinks they should be entitled to more than someone born in the USA is.

This kid is a foreign citizen, he should not think he's entitled to anything more than any other foreign student, he can apply for a student visa and pay the foreign tuition rate. Why does he think his parents' breaking the law should entitle him to freebies and handouts?

[4Freedom]

'Seal and militarize' the borders and put this illegal alien with his fraudulent IDs on the other side and keep him there.

[FITZ]

Many illegals use bogus SSN's, apparently colleges don't bother to check

The whole argument about why we need massive illegal immigration is because we need many people here to pick lettuce and tomatoes and now some of these are turning around and demanding they should have more access than students obeying the law. What happened to the need for the cheap labor?

[Steve Eisenberg]

If he wants to work here he needs to get in line for citizenship or a legal visa..I would dare suggest that there is NO medical care in Mexico to speak of.. he needs to go home and be a doctor...

I have to disagree re there being no medical care to speak of in Mexico. But I do agree that the Mexicans are more in need to more good doctors than we are. One of the great things about the U.S. immigration system is that we legally take in lots of poor immigrants.

This Dream bill is really a Mexico brain drain bill.

[holyscroller]

The bleeding heart Liberals who love these deserving students so should put their money where their mouth is and build them a medical school IN MEXICO. I agree Mexico probably needs more doctors. I like to pick my own charities, however, and not have money taken out of my pocket to subsidize a charity I don't agree with.

[Steve Eisenberg]

My kids have to have social security numbers to get into college. Aren't those only for legals?

Hard to say. Foreigners can get a U.S. taxpayer identification number, which is really exactly the same thing as a social security number. If that person ever immigrates here, that is their social security number. Legally (although perhaps not enforced) this number is required for VA benefits -- for example, if you are the foreign national spouse beneficiary of a government life insurance policy taken out by your deceased GI husband, you are supposed to get a number.

However, this is a good question to raise. When you apply for a number, don't you have to provide your nationality? And did these people tell the truth about that?

[RnMomof7]

There are Medical schools in Mexico..the white kids that can not get into one here go there..so figure that out:>)

[A CA Guy]

This is a bill that should fall flat on it's face. People who are not from here should have their family gather all their own wealth to put their kids through ANY school here in the US.
In California, 187 was to ban all the public funding of illegals at a cost of at least $6,000 per illegal per year. For college that would be a lot more.
So why do we fund a nickle for any of them?
One of the problems with 4 more years of Davis here in CA is that we still have not had a defense of 187 in court.
They are illegal and unless the country they come from wishes to pay non-discounted premiums for education, I don't know why the hell these illegals get a pass for breaking the law.
I think it is insulting as hell to citizens and the sick & elderly who haven't the bucks to even afford their own medical care, but after a life time of work, their tax money goes to young illegals instead of the work force who paid a lifetime of taxes.
This needs to be a national issue. Let Mexico, Canada or whoever fund their kids over here if they want educations.

[kstewskis]

Many illegals use bogus SSN's, apparently colleges don't bother to check, or aren't required to.

I wouldn't look for them to ever bothering to check either. They could care less where the student comes from, as long as they are getting their $$$$ out of it. That's all they care about. Look at all the over stayed, illegal student visas already are out there. As long as there is a $ sign attached to them, the liberal colleges (which equates to almost all of them) could care less.

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

This is kinda like someone robbing a bank, then saying,

"but no one was hurt in the process, and I did it for a good reason, my kids needed food and a better house to live in and look, I am going to use the money to go to medical school so I can become a doctor.. so how can you find fault with this, give me congressional amnesty, make it legal and ok that I robbed the bank, it's the humanitarian thing to do afterall."

Bankrobbing is STILL A CRIME and if we let some criminals get away with it and even reward them for it, then robbing banks will become a common occurance. or manybe it already has!

[metesky]

When its like 51/49%( +/- 3points) in favor of some cause the reporter believes in, its called an "overwhelming majority"

Shameless media whores bump.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

'Seal and militarize' the borders...

That's what I voted for too. Either we do this now, or every five years we're going to have new "Dream Act" bills coming out of Congress.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Why does he think his parents' breaking the law should entitle him to freebies and handouts?

My guess is because we have bleeding heart politicians in Washington like Orin Hatch who are more than willing to spend our money on them while at the same time forgiving their lawbreaking.

Illegal aliens openly brag that the politicians of this country care more about them than their own people, can you blame them for taking advantage of it?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Bankrobbing is STILL A CRIME and if we let some criminals get away with it and even reward them for it, then robbing banks will become a common occurance.

Stealing from the US treasury, which is what this bill does, is the same thing as robbing a bank.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I think it is insulting as hell to citizens and the sick & elderly who haven't the bucks to even afford their own medical care, but after a life time of work, their tax money goes to young illegals instead of the work force who paid a lifetime of taxes.

There have been stories in the national media lately blaming the health care crisis and the financial burdens in Florida and other places on the elderly. No mention of the real cause: the millions of illegal aliens, wouldn't be politically correct.