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Fisherman reports encounter with 20-foot great white off Point Defiance [Tacoma Washington]
The [Tacoma] News Tribune ^ | December 15th, 2002 | Bob Mottram

Posted on 12/15/2002 6:57:10 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

Fisherman reports encounter with 20-foot great white off Point Defiance

Bob Mottram; The News Tribune

A retired aquarium worker and well-known Tacoma angler, Bob Salatino, encountered what he says was an 18- to 20-foot great white shark in Puget Sound off Tacoma's Point Defiance.

Salatino worked for 20 years at the Point Defiance Zoo and Aquarium. John Rupp, the aquatic animal curator there, described him as "a knowledgeable fisherman."

Salatino said Friday he encountered the shark while fishing alone for salmon Dec. 6. He was several hundred yards north of Point Defiance.

"The sun was shining, no wind, the water was clear. I was letting my gear out," he said.

Salatino fished with a wire "meat line," a flasher and a bait of herring. A flasher is a metal or plastic device attached to the line ahead of the bait to attract salmon.

"I was standing up in my boat to see how the herring was working behind the flasher," he said. "The flasher was skipping along the top of the water. I went to let it down, and the shark grabbed it."

Salatino had attached a 5-pound lead weight to the line, to take the bait to deep water.

"That 5 pounds of lead just stopped dead," he said. "When he grabbed it, the line went slack. I started cranking in, and my pole bent right around."

Then the shark "just came charging right out of the water," about 25 feet away, Salatino said. "It had the flasher in its mouth, and was throwing its head back and forth. His teeth were like a foot in front of his jaws."

The shark rolled completely over, Salatino said, and the flasher snapped out of its mouth.

"It had a lot of tension, and came flying straight at me," he said, "coming like a bullet. I ducked, and it went clear on the other side of the boat."

The shark splashed around a bit on the surface, dived, and came back to the surface two more times.

"He was looking me square in the eye," Salatino said. "His eyeball was rolled way back."

The shark was 2 to 4 feet longer than his 16-foot boat, the angler said. It was gray on top, its belly was white, and it had "a huge stomach."

Tawnya Patrick, manager of the marine biology program at the University of Washington, said she had not heard of any other encounters with great whites in Puget Sound but that such a thing "is possible." Great whites inhabit the ocean from California to Vancouver Island, she said.

Rupp, the aquatic animal curator, said an encounter such as Salatino described was "improbable but not impossible.

"I suspect that great white sharks do make occasional sorties into Puget Sound," he said. "It would not be a normal occurrence, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility."

Great white sharks patrol offshore on the Washington coast "pretty much all the time," Rupp said. There are no recorded landings or encounters in Puget Sound.

What might prompt a great white to enter Puget Sound?

"It would be pure speculation," Rupp said. "You can go all the way from food drive to just curiosity."

Salatino knows the incident sounds impossible.

"I didn't want to say anything," he said. "Who'd believe you?"

The only potential witnesses were several yards away in another boat. "Two guys should have witnessed it, but they had their heads down," Salatino said.

Bob Mottram: 253-597-8640

bob.mottram@mail.tribnet.com

Sharks at a glance

The great white shark, also called the white shark, white death and man-eater, occurs worldwide in temperate seas. It feeds on fish, gulls, seals and sea lions.

The International Game Fish Association says the great white probably is the most dangerous shark, considering its size, strength and inclination to attack. It has attacked small boats, sometimes sinking them, the association says, and has been known to take a "larger" boat by the propeller and shake it.

An angler fishing off southern Australia in 1959 captured a great white shark that weighed 2,664 pounds.

Bob Mottram


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: greatwhiteshark; jaws
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Hey Scott, I was mentioning to Hair, IMO, and I am right here, a great white has a very different appearance from other sharks, has a couple points that are kind of unmistakable, so this guy should have been able to tell. Only the mako is very similar.
41 posted on 12/15/2002 8:32:08 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Seattle; cmsgop; GOV'T MULE
Location of the Puget Sound Hog Roast 2000.
Diane Fineswine surfaces, only to be caught by a striking lonshoreMAN!

:)
42 posted on 12/15/2002 8:32:42 PM PST by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: All

ooops

43 posted on 12/15/2002 8:34:41 PM PST by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: Sam Cree
Hi Sam. There's no doubt that this guy would know something that wasn't normal to Puget Sound. I'm sure he's very knowledgable about the kinds of sharks and dogfishes that are found here. A 20 footer is decent sized (I've seen 10 foot dogfishes, but never anything close to 20 -- except Orcas, which are much, much bigger than any shark, even a great white.

This guy is probably a pretty authoritative source.

44 posted on 12/15/2002 8:38:47 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: PoorMuttly
We've caught bull sharks (small ones) over 50 miles inland in the Edisto here in South Carolina. Fish and Wildlife just shake their head and shrug when you bring one in. The bull shark may be the top of the class of human munching predatory sharks. It's also called the Zambezi shark and is responsible for the bulk of shark attacks in South Africa and the surrounding coastal and inland river areas.
45 posted on 12/15/2002 8:44:06 PM PST by SandfleaCSC
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To: SandfleaCSC
50 miles inland. Wow. Hope someone posts a photo.
These are dangerous critters, for sure.
46 posted on 12/15/2002 8:48:39 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: PoorMuttly
"Up into the 1920's at least, striped bass on Long Island, even in the Sound, were often over 100 lbs. Sharks too ???"

"The maximum reported length of the bull shark is 11.5 feet (350 cm), weighing over 500 pounds (230 kg). Size at birth is around 29 inches (75 cm). Females grow larger than males, averaging 7.8 feet (240 cm) as adults, weighing around 285 pounds (130 kg). This is the result of a longer lifespan of about 16 years, compared to 12 years for males. Males average 7.3 feet (225 cm) and weigh 209 pounds (95 kg). Growth rates calculated from captive bull sharks were estimated to be about 11 inches (28 cm) per year in the first years of life, slowing to half that rate after about 4 years of age...from the Florida Museum of Natural History.

I find them to actually be fairly elegant animals, though evil looking.

"The largest striped bass ever recorded was a 125 pound female from North Carolina, 1891." Didn't have any idea they ever got that big, 'til now. found that on a People's Republic of Maryland website.

Amazing what you can learn on FR.

47 posted on 12/15/2002 8:50:30 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Scott from the Left Coast; Sam Cree
I'd say he'd be about as much an expert on marine life as I've ever met (haven't met that many). I was a boy then (about 30 years ago) so I couldn't tell much, but my dad always considered him a great expert on such things.

Sounds like it... I am glad it happened to him!

...Poets talk about "spots of time," but it is really fishermen who experience eternity compressed into a moment. No one can tell what a spot of time is until suddenly the whole world is a fish and the fish is gone. I shall remember that son of a bitch forever...

... Now nearly all those I loved and did not understand when I was young are dead, but I still reach out to them.

Of course, now I am too old to be much of a fisherman, and now of course I usually fish the big waters alone, although some friends think I shouldn't. Like many fly fishermen in western Montana where the summer days are almost Arctic in length, I often do not start fishing until the cool of the evening. Then in the Arctic half-light of the canyon, all existence fades to a being with my soul and memories and the sounds of the Big Blackfoot River and a four-count rhythm and the hope that a fish will rise.

~A River Runs through it...Norman Maclean


48 posted on 12/15/2002 8:57:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Scott from the Left Coast
Those are great quotes, Hair, should I read the book?

Good night, again, not sure why I am still up. So the breeze died down?
49 posted on 12/15/2002 9:01:57 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hold off on that Ark for a while ;-)
50 posted on 12/15/2002 9:06:20 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: Sam Cree
Absolutely Sam, you would like it! Good night again, Sam...

The rumors of our wind were greatly exaggerated!
51 posted on 12/15/2002 9:08:13 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Sam Cree
You can never precisely know the moment that a fish hits the line (maybe especially the native cutthroat). The adrenaline surge masks it, and you can never remember it precisely afterward. One moment all is calm and the next moment you know it has been tugging and you are trying to, cautiously, set the hook. But that moment is lost to your memory.

Eternity compressed into a moment. The spot of time that escapes you.

52 posted on 12/15/2002 9:08:24 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
So you are a fisherman? Why am I still up? Good night, All.
53 posted on 12/15/2002 9:09:48 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Pretty much streams only these days. Haven't been salmon fishing for many years. Might have to try a little great white fishing, since its nearby, you know.
54 posted on 12/15/2002 9:11:15 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
"Might have to try a little great white fishing, since it's nearby, you know."

Tell me if you get one...a guy was showing us a cool harpoon the other day, I kind of wanted to get one ;-)

I like to fish, too.

55 posted on 12/15/2002 9:17:09 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: viligantcitizen
The bull shark and grreat whit sharks have been caught in the waters off Montauk point. The book Jaws was based loosely on what was for a while the worlds record for the landing of a great white shark which occurred right off Gardiner's Island New York. The largest great white ever measured was stranded by the tide in the Bay of Fundy. Anyone who knows the waters off Maine and New Brunswick Canada does not consider them warm.

They regularly pull in Bull sharks when fishing from Barnegat Inlet New Jersey. Tiger sharks and hammerheads have been pulled in in Eastern Long Island Sound.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

56 posted on 12/15/2002 9:17:56 PM PST by harpseal
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To: Scott from the Left Coast; Sam Cree
I grew up fishing with my Dad. We always had a boat when I was a kid. Mostly fishing for salmon in the sound, and up on the straights at Sekiu at least once a year.

A family friend remembers a story better than I do, of he, my dad and I fishing at Sekiu in a rented kicker boat, when I was a little kid.

My dad is very much into the art of playing a salmon, the timing of perfectly setting the hook and then playing the fish until the fish is done. It can take an hour to land a big fish my dad's way, and it was wonderful sport.

A fish hit my line as we sat there drifting... the tell-tale "zzzzzzzzzzz" of a salmon running hard. My dad reached for my pole to do it for me. Our friend says he grabbed my dad's arm and said "Don't you dare! That is her fish!" Heh.

57 posted on 12/15/2002 9:20:39 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree; HairOfTheDog
I'm thinking that maybe that potato cannon of Hair's might be the trick for Great White hunting.
58 posted on 12/15/2002 9:21:26 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Ha! Potato cannon is not a precise weapon. We can't guarantee where it is gonna hit within 100 yards!
59 posted on 12/15/2002 9:33:01 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Straights? jeepers...

"Straits".
60 posted on 12/15/2002 9:45:37 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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