Posted on 12/17/2002 9:39:06 AM PST by Joe Bonforte
In a little noticed hearing of the House Government Reform Commnittee last week, Indiana Congressman (my homeotwn's Congressman actually) and longtime drug warrior Dan Burton made some stunning comments. In a hearing entitled "America's Heroin Crisis, Colombian Heroin and How We Can Improve Plan Colombia," Burton stopped just a hair short of advocating the decriminalization of drugs. Watch the video here (cut forward to 1 hour, 18 minutes into the hearing). Here's the transcript:
Dan Burton: I want to tell you something. I have been in probably a hundred or a hundred and fifty hearings like this at various times in my political career,. And the story is always the same. This goes back to the sixties. You know, thirty or thirty five years ago. And every time I have a hearing, I hear that people who get hooked on heroin and cocaine become addicted and they very rarely get off of it. And the scourge expands and expands and expands. And we have very fine law enforcement officers like you go out and fight the fight. And you see it growing and growing, and you see these horrible tragedies occur. But there is no end to it.
And I see young guys driving around in tough areas of Indianapolis in cars that I know they can’t afford and I know where they are getting their money. I mean that there is no question. A kid can’t be driving a brand-new Corvette when he lives in the inner city of Indianapolis in a ghetto. You know that he has gotta be making that money in someway that is probably not legal and probably involves drugs.
Over seventy percent of all crime is drug-related. And you alluded to that today. We saw on television recently Pablo Escobar gunned down and everybody applauded and said “that’s the end of the Medellín cartel. But it wasn’t the end. There is still a cartel down there. They are still all over the place. When you kill one, there’s ten or twenty or fifty waiting to take his place. You know why? Its because of what you just said a minute ago, Mr. Carr, Mr. Marcocci (sp). And that is that there is so much money to be made in it there is always going to be another person in line to make that money.
And we go into drug eradication and we go into rehabilitation and we go into education, and we do all of these things... And the drug problem continues to increase. And it continues to cost us not billions, but trillions of dollars. Trillions! And we continue to build more and more prisons, and we put more and more people in jail, and we know that the crimes most of the time are related to drugs.
So I have one question I would like to ask all of you, and I think this is a question that needs to be asked. I hate drugs. I hate people who succumb to drug addiction, and I hate what it does to our society. It has hit every one of us in our families or friends of ours. But I have one question that nobody ever asks, and that is this question: What would happen if there was no profit in drugs? If there was no profit in drugs, what would happen. If they couldn’t make any money out of selling drugs, what would happen?
Carr: I would like to comment. If we made illegal... what you are arguing then is complete legalization?
Dan Burton: No I am not arguing anything. I am asking the question. Because we have been fighting this fight for thirty to forty years and the problem never goes way...
....Well I don’t think that the people in Colombia would be planting coca if they couldn’t make any money, and I don’t think they would be refining coca and heroin in Colombia if they couldn’t make any money. And I don’t think that Al Capone would have been the menace to society that he was if he couldn’t sell alcohol on the black market and he did and we had a horrible, horrible crime problem. Now the people who are producing drugs in Southeast Asia and Southwest Asia and Colombia and everyplace else. They don’t do it because they like to do it. They don’t fill those rooms full of money because they like to fill them full of money. They do it because they are making money.
At some point we to have to look at the overall picture and the overall picture and I am not saying that there are not going to be people who are addicted they are going to have to be education and rehabilitation and all of those things that you are talking about - but one of the parts of the equation that has never been talked about because politicians are afraid to talk about it this is my last committee hearing as Chairman. Last time! And I thought about this and thought about this, and thought about this. And one of the things that ought to be asked is “what part of the equation are we leaving out?” And “is it an important part of the equation?” And that is the profit in drugs. Don’t just talk about education. Don’t just talk about eradication. Don’t just talk about killing people like Escobar, who is going to be replaced by somebody else. Let’s talk about what would happen if we started addressing how to get the profit out of drugs.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if, twenty years from now, we could look back at law-and-order Dan Burton's conversion as the "Nixon goes to China" turning point of the drug war?
I've got some oxycodone left over from a back injury, and I could go crush one up and take just enough approximate the effect of one beer. Would that be close enough to the test that you proposed earlier?
I simply couldn't understand how anyone besides a user themselves could defend legalizing drugs.
However, one I put aside my emotions and took the argument on strictly with logic, I started to see that advocates actually had a good point. However, I have never been able to understand the benefits of all out legalization.
I'll agree that in many cases it wouldn't be, but to say that it couldn't be seems to be something of a stretch. There is still the unanswered question of where the line is drawn for hard drugs. The nature of prohibition is that it forces to the market the most potent, concentrated forms of drugs - cocaine, heroin, crystal meth. I've read that many users of meth and cocaine got addicted initially not by using the drugs recreationally, but as a stimulant to work longer hours. Do you think the availability of lower potency drugs would keep some people from getting involved with harder drugs?
I know a buddy that took (I can't think of the name, but it's a diet pill that no one takes to lose weight) and as he depended more and more on it, instead of getting more rest, he had to take more and more. So, I really don't know the answer. I don't like the idea of legalizing or criminalizing something just to affect how people live their lives. I think the legal question should only come into play when others are threatened. I believe that HARD drug users are a threat to their neighbors. Physically, financially, socially.
The government was never serious about winning the drug war. Famous quote from retired DEA agent to his criminal justice class, "I sure hate to think I spent such a large portion of my life working on a useless enterprise but it sure seems that way."
Politicos get drug money in their campaign funds, even Ronald Reagan ask me. LE agencies local, state, and fed profit from the war on drugs. The prison industry, drug testing industry, etc...they all profit.
A better plan would be to wall off certain regions, LA for example. Then air drop in the hubba and crap pipes for a few weeks. Follow up with air drops of tec-9's.
Of course you all know, this is merely setting the stage for another tax revenue stream to be enacted, as in Canada. The governments have taxed the sheeple as much as they dare.
It's the same reason many former opponents are now pro gambling.
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