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Conseco files Chapter 11, 3rd largest BK after Enron and
Worldcom
Posted on 12/17/2002 9:41:23 PM PST by BlackJack
Chicago, Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Conseco Inc. filed for bankruptcy protection tonight to stem mounting losses and restructure more than $6 billion of debt incurred while the insurance and finance company acquired smaller rivals.
The Conseco bankruptcy is the third-largest U.S. Chapter 11 filing, after WorldCom Inc. and Enron Corp. The Carmel, Indiana- based company listed $52.3 billion in assets and $51.2 billion in debts in documents filed in bankruptcy court in Chicago late tonight.
The bankruptcy comes 2 1/2 years after Conseco hired former General Electric Capital Corp. Chief Executive Gary Wendt to attempt to reverse losses from its foray into mobile-home lending. The company said in October that Wendt, who got a $45 million signing bonus when he joined, would step down as chief executive officer and remain chairman.
``It shows how hard it is to turn a company around when it starts to go south,'' said Rick Rickertsen, chief operating officer at Washington buyout firm Thayer Capital Partners. ``At one point they were in the money and it looked like one of the greatest Phoenix-bird turnarounds. But in a tough credit environment it's hard to turn things around.''
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Recovery is just around the corner.
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posted on
12/17/2002 9:41:23 PM PST
by
BlackJack
To: BlackJack
The Carmel, Indiana- based company listed $52.3 billion in assets and $51.2 billion in debtsSo what's the problem? Pay your debts.
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posted on
12/17/2002 9:51:52 PM PST
by
PRND21
To: BlackJack
foray into mobile-home lending
There's the problem. When the doublewides got foreclosed on, they were already gone.
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posted on
12/17/2002 9:57:30 PM PST
by
July 4th
To: BlackJack
Don't worry fellow workers. This is a corporation and thus it hurts only evil rich people.
/sarcasm
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posted on
12/17/2002 10:06:13 PM PST
by
Bogey78O
To: July 4th
Roger Clinton took off with the doublewide.
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posted on
12/17/2002 10:06:40 PM PST
by
BlackJack
To: BlackJack
If you have insurance assets or annuities with them, you might consider a new carrier...
To: PRND21
Assets like pensions and goodwill? Yeah, I thought WCOM had assets...
To: BlackJack; arete; dalereed; B4Ranch; rohry; SauronOfMordor; Mr. Jeeves
And another one's gone, and another one's gone. Another one bites the dust.
Which exhibit is this in the Debt Bubble burst? I lost count.
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posted on
12/17/2002 10:19:58 PM PST
by
steveegg
To: Professional
Assets like pensions and goodwill? Yeah, I thought WCOM had assets... I hear you, I have WCOM stock. ;(
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posted on
12/17/2002 10:27:10 PM PST
by
PRND21
To: PRND21
WCOM, unlike Conseco, was an absolute corrupt lie that was supported by lots of major players on Wall Street. Only a year before they went bankrupt, they floated one of the biggest bond issues in history. Only one year! The rating was an A, which gave them fairly cheap access to the credit markets. The book value 4 months before bankruptcy was $20 per share and earnings forecast by the street at $1 for 2003. Lies, damn corrupt lies. And Merrill gets a $100 million dollar fine, what a frickin joke. Merrill, Sollie, GS, DW, PW, should all be sued out of business, but they wont.
To: steveegg
Since 1943, junk debt had only one case of 3 consecutive less than 5% positive returns, and 6 back to back occasions. We are now in 5 consecutive years. I think THAT says a lot about how shoddy Wall Street had become. This whole bad stock market is actually about how bad the corporate bond market is.
To: Professional
X post
Good ridance - they bought our insurance group in 1995 and promptly terminated over 1500 hard working agents - our CEO and CAO pocketed 64 mil in the deal - painful to remember it - I hope they don't get away with their "golden parachutes" - a pox on them all - sorry for the bitterness - it is still heavy.
and the whole thing was a stock market rip from the git go - we were fish! sucked in to the scam - we worked so hard and believed Mr. Peter Nauert - kind alike Klinton - U hate the SOB until you meet him - then he charms the socks of yu.
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posted on
12/17/2002 10:56:02 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
To: Bobibutu
Interesting how replys shut off when personal experience arises - or is it just lack of interest.
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posted on
12/17/2002 11:29:21 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
Comment #14 Removed by Moderator
To: Bobibutu
A lot of posters find it hard to blindly defend companies once someone posts how those companies treat their (former) workers. That is why they shut up.
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posted on
12/17/2002 11:58:45 PM PST
by
Karsus
To: ekaneti
GDP is up. But most everything else is down. Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the goverment cooked the GDP numbers? They cook all the other numbers so why not the GDP numbers?
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posted on
12/18/2002 12:00:51 AM PST
by
Karsus
To: Karsus
Government cook the books?
NOW, ABOUT THAT DEFICIT. . .
< SNIP >
Here's what O'Neill wrote on the Treasury Department Web site: "Accrual based financial reporting is critical to gaining a comprehensive understanding of the U.S. Government's operations. For fiscal 2001, our results were an accrual-based deficit of $515 billion in contrast to a $127 billion surplus reported last Fall."
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posted on
12/18/2002 12:10:50 AM PST
by
sarcasm
To: sarcasm
So much for the 'Principled' GWB White House. I just love how GWB is turning out to be almost a mirror image of Clinton White House (minus the sex scandels)
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posted on
12/18/2002 12:23:55 AM PST
by
Karsus
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To: Karsus
Ummm, 2001 was all about throwing out the Clinton numbers. GW inherited the false reporting.
You may have noticed that the half-trillion deficit was actually reported? The Algore president would never have reported on that at all.
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posted on
12/18/2002 3:40:24 AM PST
by
jimtorr
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