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A Woman's Testimony of Incest and Abortion (my title)
ProLife InfoNet ^ | 13 Dec 02 | Denise Kalasky

Posted on 12/18/2002 2:19:35 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

Abortion: The Great Incest Cover-Up ... A Young Mother's Story by Denise Kalasky

[ProLifeInfo.org Note: Excerpted from "Victims and Victors: Speaking Out About their Pregnancies, Abortions, and Children Resulting from Sexual Assault." Copyright 2000, David C. Reardon, Julie Makimaa, and Amy Sobie.]

I was a victim of incest, one of the "hard cases" for abortion. I was raped by my father when I was 15 years old. It was not the first time, nor would it be the last. However, this time, I became pregnant.

One night, I became very sick and my parents took me to the hospital. I believe now that they knew I was pregnant since they took me to a different hospital than normal. The emergency room doctor discovered that, along with a very bad case of the flu, I was 19 weeks pregnant.

My father flew into a rage, accusing me of all sorts of things, and demanding I have an abortion. The doctor informed me that I was pregnant and asked me what I wanted. I had seen the "Silent Scream" and knew that abortion was murder. In spite of the pain and guilt I felt, knowing who the father of the baby was, it was far better to have a baby than the alternative to kill it. I refused to have an abortion.

My father flew into an uncontrollable rage and demanded that I consent to the abortion, or that the doctor do it with or without my permission. The doctor refused because of my wishes. My father demanded that an abortionist be found regardless of the cost.

Within one hour, this man arrived at the hospital, talked with my parents and decided to do the abortion, without speaking to me. I refused and tried to get off the examining table. He then asked three nurses to hold me while he strapped me to the bed and injected me with a muscle relaxant to keep me from struggling while he prepared to kill my baby.

I continued to scream that I didn't want an abortion. He told me, "Shut up and quit that yelling!" Eventually, I was placed under general anesthesia and my child was brutally killed.

I was told that an abortion would solve my problem, when it was never really the problem in the first place. I was told, "Your parents know what's best," when they obviously were only concerned about their own reputations. I was told, "You made the right decision," when I was never given a choice. More important, where was my baby's choice?

I grieve every day for my daughter. I have struggled to forget the abuse and the abortion. I can do neither. All I think of is, "I should have done more, fought more, struggled more for the life of my child."

My situation may not be common, but I know it's not unique either. The emotions and problems I've had to deal with as a result of my abortion are common. The trauma of the rape and abuse were only intensified by the abortion. The guilt of knowing my baby is dead is something I will have to live with for the rest of my life.

I was violated and betrayed over and over by my father, who God created to love and protect me. I was humiliated, hurt, and violated again by the abortionist.

I have talked with "pro-lifers" who consider my abortion acceptable, under the circumstances. I want to tell people, "If you really want to be compassionate, give this mother the opportunity to choose life for her child. If you really love the mothers who have been victimized, don't let them be exploited again by someone who will make a profit from their dead child a memory that will haunt them for the rest of their lives."

The next time you hear of the "hard cases," please remind people that every crisis pregnancy is difficult for the mother. If you believe these cases are hard, you're correct they are extremely hard for the mother. But if you choose abortion, it's an IMPOSSIBLE situation for the baby.

The mom needs love, support and understanding, not the pain of allowing herself to be violated again in order to kill her child. Regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the pain involved, that helpless, innocent child has no voice, no defense, and no chance, unless we offer real love and real compassion to the mother.

My abortion was over five years ago. God is still healing me, but it has been a difficult fight. Although I'm actively pro-life, very few people know my story. It's still very difficult to share with people.

"He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds." (Psalm 147:3) God bless you!


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Share this with everyone who ever told you they support the "right to choose" because of rape and incest exceptions.
1 posted on 12/18/2002 2:19:37 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; bulldogs; Charlie OK; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anything I've pinged you to is a must-read, this is it!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

2 posted on 12/18/2002 2:20:55 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
Thank you! I feel so bad for that woman and all that she went through, but it gave me a newer perspective on abortion.
4 posted on 12/18/2002 2:30:37 PM PST by axel f
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To: Mr. Silverback
As a former NICU nurse with too much experience trying to save victims of prostaglandin abortions who refused to die, no one can be more anti-abortion than me. I do not believe this story. Nurses in hospitals do not hold people down while abortions are performed against their will. And doctors with admitting privileges at hospitals do not perform abortions against a person's will. This story simply is not true.
5 posted on 12/18/2002 2:38:11 PM PST by DC native
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To: DC native
That was exactly my take on it.
6 posted on 12/18/2002 2:39:11 PM PST by Aliska
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To: DC native
I thot it a tad to "well" written.
8 posted on 12/18/2002 2:42:36 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Mr. Silverback
God has blessed me with two beautiful boys, I am so thank ful for them. I cannot imagine the heartbreak this woman is dealing with, bless her and the others like her. Thank you for the post.
9 posted on 12/18/2002 2:42:52 PM PST by sweet virginia
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To: DC native
If this is true, it's horrible, but I tend not beleive it.
11 posted on 12/18/2002 2:46:34 PM PST by muggs
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To: Mr. Silverback
Bookmarked!!! I will use this next time I get into an arguement over abortion.
13 posted on 12/18/2002 2:54:10 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Mr. Silverback
I guess that "choice" means that when someone somewhere chooses for you to have an abortion, your opinion doesn't matter.
14 posted on 12/18/2002 2:57:34 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: DC native
I agree. If it is true, I will represent the mother, at my own expense, in an action against all liable parties.
15 posted on 12/18/2002 2:58:17 PM PST by Iron Eagle
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To: Mr. Silverback
thank you for posting this. on the bus monday i overheard a young girl tell her friend that she was 8 weeks pregnant.
her mother wanted her to have an abortion. she refused saying that would be murder. i told her i would pray for her. she is going to allow the baby to be adopted. what a fine young lady. please pray for her.
16 posted on 12/18/2002 2:58:33 PM PST by scott91
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To: Mr. Silverback
I'm pro life but I don't believe nurses would restrain a woman screaming no to abortion while some jerk did the deed.
17 posted on 12/18/2002 3:02:13 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: DC native
Eeeeee.
I never thought about that this story could be a hoax. On the one hand I hope it is because I wouldn't want anybody to go through this, but at the same time I don't want our side using propaganda to win.
18 posted on 12/18/2002 3:04:34 PM PST by axel f
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To: jwalsh07
Why not? They leave living babies lying on tables to die, refusing them medical care. What's the difference?
19 posted on 12/18/2002 3:06:20 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: Mr. Silverback
I grieve every day for my daughter.

Are we to assume here that she had an ultrasound to determine the sex of the fetus?

20 posted on 12/18/2002 3:08:26 PM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: Aliska; DC native
Besides the facts cited, do you believe that a teenager can write like this? Only when she is middle-aged, after great many years of sorting things out, MAYBE, will she be able to write so cerbrally about this alleged experience.
21 posted on 12/18/2002 3:14:00 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: jwalsh07
This was written up in Pro-Life InfoNet Weekly; I received this article in my e-mail yesterday. As a rule, that publication checks their stroies pretty well. A few things don't add up, I grant you, but the story may be based in fact. Toenail can link you to some hair raising stories that are the subject of lawsuits, where abortion 'clinics' have done procedures against a young woman's will, at the insistence of the mother or father.
22 posted on 12/18/2002 3:18:35 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Mr. Silverback
I had the same reaction to the story. It sounds faker than fake. You mean to tell me a girl who fought off nurses, abortionsists, her mother and evil father all in one day would allow some scumbag rape her repeatedly for years and not fight for herself but she wants to fight for her evil father's unborn baby. I don't think so! A girl that strong willed who won't take any crap from anybody, let alone a man. She is the type who would call the cops at the drop of a hat if any person with a penis even dared slap her one time across the face.
23 posted on 12/18/2002 3:29:32 PM PST by MadisonA
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To: TopQuark
I was having trouble determining the age . . . then at the end the writer says it was over 5 years ago . . . the alleged abortion occurred when she was 15 . . .

Something about it didn't and doesn't ring true and not because I don't want it to be true. There are sufficient true horror stories out there.

No cause is advanced by falsehood and fabrication.

25 posted on 12/18/2002 3:44:27 PM PST by Aliska
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To: spinneyhead
that does not, of course, folow- even a little.
26 posted on 12/18/2002 4:18:54 PM PST by arthurus
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To: spinneyhead
believe that a woman has the right to choose to have or refuse a termination. Any cries that this means I support murder are just going to get the same answer again,

You say you do not support murder but you support other people supporting and committing murder. Interesting...

27 posted on 12/18/2002 4:21:35 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Mr. Silverback
LIFE!

28 posted on 12/18/2002 4:26:03 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Mr. Silverback; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart
Within one hour, this man arrived at the hospital, talked with my parents and decided to do the abortion, without speaking to me. I refused and tried to get off the examining table. He then asked three nurses to hold me while he strapped me to the bed and injected me with a muscle relaxant to keep me from struggling while he prepared to kill my baby.

I continued to scream that I didn't want an abortion. He told me, "Shut up and quit that yelling!" Eventually, I was placed under general anesthesia and my child was brutally killed.

Sorry, this rings completely false.

29 posted on 12/18/2002 4:27:40 PM PST by dighton
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To: MHGinTN; Politicalmom
I've been in the ICU, CCU and emgerency units more times than I care to admit. My wife has been there even more often. We are both physically healthy so no worries there.

I work in hospitals every day of my life.

My experience with nurses has always been pretty positive even when I almost bled out. :-}

I just find it hard to believe that a nurse would do such a thing to a patient involuntarily based on my life experience.

30 posted on 12/18/2002 4:27:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: MHGinTN
A few things don't add up, I grant you, but the story may be based in fact.

Based in fact = total falsehood.

Aren't there enough horror stories out there that are bad enough they don't need to be "based in fact"? I agree with the posters that find this story to be highly unlikely. We're supposed to believe this happened in 1995 to someone who's active in the pro-life movement yet refuses to give any vital details to punish the people who did this to her? Why doesn't she name the hospital? Why doesn't she name the city? Why doesn't she name the state? What kind of pro-life advocate could endure such a horror and not seek to prevent it from ever happending to anyone again?
31 posted on 12/18/2002 4:32:33 PM PST by flyervet
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To: DC native
Underage minors do not have the (legal) option of refusing care unless they are emancipated. Ever heard of a child refusing chemo and requesting to die but they get it anyway? It is difficult to believe, but place it in a less than ethical public hospital with a bunch of pro-choice nurses and this could happen. Stranger things have.
32 posted on 12/18/2002 4:36:58 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: scott91
her mother wanted her to have an abortion. she refused

An all too frequent but unacknowledged scenario. You are a good friend.

33 posted on 12/18/2002 4:40:29 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: MadisonA
You mean to tell me a girl who fought off nurses, abortionsists, her mother and evil father all in one day would allow some scumbag rape her repeatedly for years and not fight for herself but she wants to fight for her evil father's unborn baby.


Actually I work with women with her history quite a bit and the story rings very true. They cannot save themselves but will fight to the death to save others.
34 posted on 12/18/2002 5:03:55 PM PST by mlmr
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To: axel f
Forced abortions happen daily in China
35 posted on 12/18/2002 5:04:39 PM PST by eccentric
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To: Scupoli
Underage minors do not have the (legal) option of refusing care unless they are emancipated. Ever heard of a child refusing chemo and requesting to die but they get it anyway?


I have a nursing background. I assure you that this could be true. Children have no options.
36 posted on 12/18/2002 5:05:42 PM PST by mlmr
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To: RoughDobermann
Guess we are to assume that she was told the sex of her torn to pieces baby.
37 posted on 12/18/2002 5:10:30 PM PST by Hila
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To: mlmr
Then why hasn't she at least named the hospital where this allegedly happened?
38 posted on 12/18/2002 5:13:17 PM PST by flyervet
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To: Hila
Depends on the type of abortion. After an abortion, the physician or nurse is required to put the torn pieces back together again on a tray. This ensures 'they got it all' and prevents further infection.

A fetus in the 19th week of gestation would have an identifiable sex. The sex would be documented in the medical records as part of the documentation of the abortion procedure. As an adult, she is entitled to access her medical records or as a minor with legal counsel.

39 posted on 12/18/2002 5:20:01 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: jwalsh07
That this is alleged to have happened in a hospital is the most glaring piece of the article. I tend to agree, not a true story. [BTW, I've spent decades calling on hospitals and doctors offices. In two plus decades, I've never met a doctor who would do this! I've never detailed a 'doctor' an abortuary, but this woman claims this occurred in a hospital. False stories will be surfacing regularly as we approach the difinitive debates regarding democrat defense of the indefensible --strawmen to be deflated for dissonance effect I fear. We must be on our guard. I'll see if I can dig up more from ProLife Net, to expose this one out if false.]
40 posted on 12/18/2002 5:28:48 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: DC native
"...I do not believe this story. Nurses in hospitals do not hold people down while abortions are performed against their will. And doctors with admitting privileges at hospitals do not perform abortions against a person's will. This story simply is not true...."

As someone who works in an E.D. - this story has to be bogus, no doctor would put his license on the line for a parent in this situation. I cannot believe that there is an E.D. nurse alive that would hold a woman down during a forced abortion. And no hospital administrator wants the "added cost and publicity" of such a potentially nasty lawsuit.
41 posted on 12/18/2002 5:30:10 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: DC native
This story simply is not true.

Where are the lawsuits? Where are the criminal charges? In many states, this abortion would be a murder.

I don't buy it.

But I oppose all abortions and consider the "hard cases" to be primarily a literary device created by the abortion industry.
42 posted on 12/18/2002 5:33:21 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
In many states, this abortion would be a murder

WHERE? Abortion is a federally protected right. This is an unemancipated minor at the legal mercy of her parents. They most assuredly can do this and get away with it if they can find an unethical doctor to go along with it. That doesn't seem too difficult. It's income in his pocket and in the hospital's.

But I oppose all abortions and consider the "hard cases" to be primarily a literary device created by the abortion industry.

So rape and incest victims never get pregnant? I have a bridge to sell you.

43 posted on 12/18/2002 5:41:50 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: mlmr
"I have a nursing background. I assure you that this could be true. Children have no options"

They do indeed have options. a fifteen y/o girl has the right to refuse any invasive procedure in an emergency room situation. This scenario would have raised red flags all over the place! There would have been doctors, nurses, social workers and child advocates all over this! Pregnancy is not a life threatening situation. Now if this child was in need of a life saving procedure or medication - force could be used via parental consent. If this child needed stitches to stop bleeding - force could be used via parental consent. But force would have not been used to abort a baby in the E.D. - She would have been referred out. Not only referred out - this child would have been interviewed alone by several people and possibly admitted to insure that this was not an abuse case.

44 posted on 12/18/2002 5:46:08 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
They do indeed have options. a fifteen y/o girl has the right to refuse any invasive procedure in an emergency room situation

You've got to be kidding. Maybe at your hospital, but there are some very nasty places out there where unethical and immoral but LEGAL things are done all the time. It depends on the physician and I've seen a lot. Don't be naive.

45 posted on 12/18/2002 5:50:27 PM PST by Scupoli
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Where?

I'm pretty sure my state has a law to protect the life of an unborn child if the mother wants the child. Normally, this would be applied in vehicular homicide where the unborn child dies as a result of criminal negligence by the driver. I think some other states have the same type of laws. Naturally, the abortion industry sees these kinds of laws as the beginning of a recognition of a right to life. The key to these laws generally is whether the mother desires the child.

So rape and incest victims never get pregnant? I have a bridge to sell you.

Of course they do. But I don't favor the murder of children based on the circumstances of their conception. If you favor killing those conceived in the most unpleasant circumstances possible, I don't think you'll find very many to agree with you here at FR.
46 posted on 12/18/2002 5:51:14 PM PST by George W. Bush
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I'm pretty sure my state has a law to protect the life of an unborn child if the mother wants the child.

A minor has no rights. The parents are looked to legally as the decision-makers. A child's only salvation is the moral and ethical code of the physician, nurse and hospital.

If you favor killing those conceived in the most unpleasant circumstances possible, I don't think you'll find very many to agree with you here at FR.

I don't.

48 posted on 12/18/2002 5:55:30 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: Scupoli
send me some of these facilities names via freemail and I'll do some checking before you call me naive - I have to have substantial proof of the wrongs of these "nasty" facilities before I pass judgement. With the very stringent federal/state guidelines that all E.D.'s must follow - I would like to see just how many are getting by them without being shut down.
49 posted on 12/18/2002 5:56:42 PM PST by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: Scupoli
It depends on the physician and I've seen a lot. Don't be naive.

Why don't you document some of these many forced medical procedures for us? Provide some links to newspaper stories and other writings.

In a lawsuit-happy country like ours, you should easily be able to provide some supporting information for your claims.
50 posted on 12/18/2002 5:57:09 PM PST by George W. Bush
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