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To: Cicero
According to Ezekiel 19, the righteous have a duty to preach to the wicked to mend their ways, warning them that if they persist in their wickedness they will die.

If you lived in a theocracy, a kind of Christian version of Iran, that would be fine, but in this free country, a threat is a threat, however you care to phrase it.

Even lowlife gangbangers understand that "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Are pro-lifers too dense to get it, or do they just self rightiously think they deserve to be treated better than any one else?

11 posted on 12/19/2002 9:34:45 AM PST by Servant of the Nine
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To: Servant of the Nine
So, for example, if you were to say to someone "If you continue to smoke, you will die," you'd construe that as a threat? If not, then why in the world would you consider this lady reading a bible passage a threat?
14 posted on 12/19/2002 10:16:28 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Servant of the Nine
If you tell a bank robber, "If you continue to rob banks, you are likely to get shot by the police," is that a threat? If you tell an abortionist, "If you continue to murder innocent babies, you will probably end up in hell," is that a threat? It's only a threat if you say, "Stop doing that, or I'll kill you." And that is not the message of Ezekiel 19. The message of Ezekiel 19 can be summed up in other biblical passages. "The wages of sin is death," and "Choose life."
20 posted on 12/19/2002 10:47:01 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Servant of the Nine
Are pro-lifers too dense to get it, or do they just self rightiously think they deserve to be treated better than any one else?

only 2 choices, huh? both negative.....a slip is showin', that's fo' sho'

28 posted on 12/19/2002 11:08:08 AM PST by 1john2 3and4
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To: Servant of the Nine
If you lived in a theocracy, a kind of Christian version of Iran, that would be fine, but in this free country, a threat is a threat, however you care to phrase it.

Even lowlife gangbangers understand that "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Are pro-lifers too dense to get it, or do they just self rightiously think they deserve to be treated better than any one else?

So if a preacher used these passages to expound upon the theme of "the wages of sin is death" in his Sunday morning sermon, should the government send in its goons and haul him away in shackles? I'm trying to see where and upon what basis we draw the line, here. Chances are, anyone could find anything said anywhere anytime as threatening, if they look hard and stretch and twist meanings and intentions enough.

29 posted on 12/19/2002 11:20:09 AM PST by chimera
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To: Servant of the Nine
If you don't want someone to read aloud in public, you don't get to put them in prison.

You get to tell them to shut up, and then you get to walk away if they refuse.

No one here is advocating a theocracy - you're just trying to find a way to use your favorite buzzword.

Your page self-describes you as a libertarian. It's an odd kind of libertarian who believes in freedom for everyone except Christians. It's also a odd kind of libertarian who advocates taking the life of the weakest and most defenceless people.

I'm not sure who the "Nine" you serve are - but they must hate freedom.

46 posted on 12/19/2002 1:11:16 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Servant of the Nine
Oh please...she said he persists in his wickedness he will die, not that she would kill him. Good grief...get a grip.
47 posted on 12/19/2002 1:13:50 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Servant of the Nine
What is your problem? Any threat or promise read from the Bible, is a threat or promise from God-not from his messinger, merely delivering the truth. THe messenger can be silenced, but the message is just as true and the promise will still be kept and/or punishment administered.
50 posted on 12/19/2002 1:19:45 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Servant of the Nine
So -- are you saying if I opppose the War in Iraq, I can't demonstrate on a public street in front of the decision makers and perpetrators to tell them to STOP THE KILLING while quoting from the same Bible that all our Founders read and understood?

85 posted on 12/19/2002 10:16:44 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Servant of the Nine
No woman who has borne a child needs to live in a "theocracy" to know that a self-proclaimed doctor should never be willing to kill at least one of his patients for a minimum $350.00!!
88 posted on 12/19/2002 10:25:37 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Servant of the Nine
"Are pro-lifers too dense to get it, or do they just self rightiously think they deserve to be treated better than any one else?"

No, you dont get it Servant of the Nine. It was only a threat to someone that has a guilty conscience and in no way was it a physical threat such as the Muslims pose. To not see that clear difference is to be deliberately ignorant.
Repent or you will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. There did I threaten you or just speak the truth. Your attempt to confuse the issue is not flying with me.
101 posted on 12/20/2002 1:52:58 PM PST by MoGalahad
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To: Servant of the Nine
What was the crime? Before you want to give her the time???

Over 60,000 men and women who wanted to spare pregnant woman from a lifetime of regret and possible physical injury and help her learn to love and care for her child were more than willing to go to jail -- some were beaten - Catholic bishops were stripped searched and you have the gall to write such a remark??
102 posted on 12/27/2002 8:25:05 PM PST by victim soul
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To: Servant of the Nine
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

Last I checked, people who don't support mutilating unborn babies have a right to state their views. It's called the First Amendament. It's not a crime to state a view. The view she stated is that of God. She is just the messenger. Apparently it is you that is threatend by Him and His message. In no way shape or form is she as a mere mortal threatening anyone with those Words from God.

"Are pro-lifers too dense to get it, or do they just self rightiously think they deserve to be treated better than any one else?"

No, it's actually people like YOU that "don't get it." No one who speaks against abortion feels "self righteous" but do believe the unborn does deserve to be treated as the person they are - not having it's limbs sucked off and dismembered till death is a relief.

Ever see an abortion? Look at the pictures. There is nothing "compassionate" about that. It's pure evil. This woman is only trying to warn, not threaten, what the end result of giving permission for infantcide is - eeternal life in hell. This woman should be exaulted for trying to save a person from hell.

As to why you are so intolerant towards someones legal right to voice their views through words is beyond me. Maybe you ought to get right with God and have some peace in your life. It's ibvious to me that you are a malcontent eager to state YOUR views but others are to remain silent on theirs. It's so typical of the godless and intolerant, self absorbed.

108 posted on 12/27/2002 8:46:54 PM PST by nmh
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