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Ban Opponents on Recall Warpath (Smoking Ban - Pueblo, CO)
Pueblo Chieftain ^ | 12/19/02 | James Amos

Posted on 12/19/2002 11:45:50 AM PST by Hell to pay

Ban opponents on recall warpath
By JAMES AMOS
The Pueblo Chieftain

Some sported "Put Their Butts Out!" buttons and T-shirts featuring the photographs of four City Council members who voted for the city's new smoking ban.

Others handed out bumper stickers saying "Fix Potholes, Not People!" and "The Sloppers Are Probably More Unhealthy Than Cigarettes, Vote No On Smoking Ordinance!"

Meeting at Peppers Niteclub on Wednesday, an estimated 400-500 people organized their push to overturn the city's new smoking ban and recall the four City Council members who voted for it.

The ban, passed by council Dec. 9, would outlaw smoking in almost any enclosed place open to the public or to which the public is invited. It would apply to bars, restaurants, bingo halls, bowling alleys and stores as well as prohibit smoking outside a building within 20 feet of the door.

The ban goes into effect Jan. 1 unless the group, "Puebloan's For Common Sense In Government", can gather enough petition signatures to stop it.

The group will start gathering signatures for several issues:

- a referendum suspending the smoking ban and forcing a ballot question asking voters if they want the city's old smoking ordinance instead.

- a recall of council President Mike Occhiato and members Bill Sova, Bob Schilling and Ted Lopez Jr..

The referendum petitions could be available as soon as this morning, attorney Joe Losavio told the crowd, which included many bar and restaurant owners. The city has to approve the petition forms.

Doug Carlson takes a puff from his cigarette while he and Irish Pub owner, Ted Calentino, listen during a meeting of people against the city's new no-smoking ordinance held at Peppers Niteclub Wednesday. Carlson and Calentino are members of organizational committees assembled to fight the ordinance.

The recall petitions may be available by Friday, he said.

The group has 30 days from the day the ordinance was approved to force the ballot question on the issue, Losavio said. Puebloan's For Common Sense wants to gather more than the 3,300 signatures needed by the end of the year in order to prevent the ordinance from taking effect at all.

Losavio and attorneys Jim and Joe Koncilja are donating their legal services to the effort.

"This is dictating rather than governing," Losavio said of the ban.

He said Pueblo residents were "blindsided" by the ordinance, which was introduced in a less strict form in October and then changed at the Dec. 9 meeting to include all bars.

Losavio said people would rather that the city spend tax money on anything other than enforcing the ban.

Joe Koncilja said the ban was "without a doubt the dumbest move I've ever seen" and could just lead the city to ban other dangerous things.

"Alcohol is more dangerous than cigarettes, so why not just close you down altogether?" he told the bar owners in the crowd.

The irony is that people will drive to county bars to drink and smoke, said Koncilja, who noted that he specializes in clients with drunk-driving charges.

"Then you'll have a longer road and maybe you'll kill someone on the way back," he said.

The group also plans to ask bar owners not to serve "the Fascist Four" council members, as Losavio called them, and for people to boycott their businesses.

"We're going to make this the most colorful, most interesting campaign there is," said one of the group's co-chairman, Don Gray, owner of Gray's Coors Tavern.

"It's important that we really make this thing a rights issue, not a smoking issue," Gray said of the group's campaign strategy.

"You are all freedom fighters," he said.

Bar and restaurant operators fear the ban will cost them business. But they were not the only people supporting the referendum and recalls.

Sharon Radacy, who gathered people's names at the door, said only about half the crowd were bar or restaurants proprietors.

She herself isn't one either, she said. She sells insurance, much of it to bars and restaurants, so "it's a trickle-down effect," she said.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: antismoking; pufflist; smoking
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1 posted on 12/19/2002 11:45:50 AM PST by Hell to pay
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To: Hell to pay; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; ...
recall the four City Council members who voted for it.

There's the ticket!!


2 posted on 12/19/2002 11:53:58 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Hell to pay
"This is dictating rather than governing," Losavio said of the ban.


3 posted on 12/19/2002 11:56:56 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Hell to pay
The group also plans to ask bar owners not to serve "the Fascist Four" council members, as Losavio called them, and for people to boycott their businesses.

That's beautiful!!!

4 posted on 12/19/2002 11:59:17 AM PST by SheLion
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To: Hell to pay; SheLion
I hope this starts a trend and I hope they are successful on both petitions!
5 posted on 12/19/2002 12:01:28 PM PST by OBone
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To: OBone
I hope this starts a trend and I hope they are successful on both petitions!

Amen, OBone!!!!!

Smokers all across the U.S. are starting to see what is going on. Articles like this really make me smile. Business owner's are tired of losing their livelihoods.

6 posted on 12/19/2002 12:07:26 PM PST by SheLion
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To: OBone

7 posted on 12/19/2002 12:16:03 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Hell to pay
"It's important that we really make this thing a rights issue, not a smoking issue," Gray said of the group's campaign strategy.

Nice to see that someone "gets" it. All the rest is just smoke and mirrors. (excuse the lame statement)

8 posted on 12/19/2002 12:18:19 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: Hell to pay; SheLion
"We're going to make this the most colorful, most interesting campaign there is," said one of the group's co-chairman, Don Gray, owner of Gray's Coors Tavern.

This is going to be fun to watch!

Maybe critical mass has been reached? I sure hope so.

9 posted on 12/19/2002 12:25:45 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
This is going to be fun to watch!

And I love it where they are calling to recall the 4 maroons that voted for it, and for the bar owners to refuse to sell to them. heh!

10 posted on 12/19/2002 12:27:46 PM PST by SheLion
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To: SheLion
and for the bar owners to refuse to sell to them. heh!

Wouldn't it be great to see a brawl break out when one of the esteemed council members can't get a drink?

Years ago a friend of mine was tending bar on Cape Cod and a local Democrat judge came in blind drunk and was refused service. He started a ruckus; and when the cops arrived, one of them was a black cop(a real good guy, an old Capey with all the right attitudes.)

The judge started hurling racial epithets at him. The cop just slapped the cuffs on him, put him under protective custody and hauled him off to the police station to sleep it off.

Anyway, I'm kind of hoping for a scene something like that.

11 posted on 12/19/2002 12:53:36 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Hell to pay
The same thing should be done in DeKalb County GA where
today the socialist county government voted to ban smoking in restaurants WITHOUT a public debate. This was another
blindsided vote that caught many people off guard. The
idiot who proposed this was Socialist commissioner
Burrell Ellis.
12 posted on 12/19/2002 1:09:24 PM PST by jragan2001
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To: Hell to pay
I no longer care. I smoke when and where I want to.

Once the people crossed the line of mutual respect, then I was no longer held to those concepts.

Amazing how business owners will not evict you if you smoke, no matter what the "invalid laws" may state.

13 posted on 12/19/2002 1:15:13 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Madame Dufarge
Anyway, I'm kind of hoping for a scene something like that.

That is so excellent! I'd like to see that in print, as well. LOL!

14 posted on 12/19/2002 1:23:36 PM PST by SheLion
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To: Hell to pay
Whether you smoke or not is not the problem. Loosing your freedoms are!

President Mike Occhiato and members Bill Sova, Bob Schilling and Ted Lopez Jr. of that City Council are truly arrogant people apparently steeped in self- righteousness’ of pure stupidity. I wonder how many drug addicts their town has or how much crime? I’ll bet there were no crimes over cigarettes!

15 posted on 12/19/2002 1:30:43 PM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
What's worse is that while governments in America are being
busy-bodies by taking away American citizens' rights, our
governments are granting more and more rights to illegal
aliens like matricula cards to Mexican criminals. This
is why our country is now being called by some the USS of A.
16 posted on 12/19/2002 1:35:24 PM PST by jragan2001
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To: yoe
I’ll bet there were no crimes over cigarettes!

Until the taxes on cigarettes go sky high.

17 posted on 12/19/2002 1:44:23 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Hell to pay
FREE COUNTRY HUH!Those who are in control and those who are weak willed enough to obey them will determined what freedoms they will ALLOW YOU TO HAVE!
18 posted on 12/19/2002 1:47:54 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: SheLion
At least SOME citizens are finally starting to fight back.
I say use the system as far as you can and when the system breaks down there is always civil disobedience.
19 posted on 12/19/2002 1:53:52 PM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
At least SOME citizens are finally starting to fight back.

Articles like this gives me great hope, Joe. The people across the U.S. are starting FINALLY to see what is going on! Smokers AND non-smokers alike. I like this kind of article, don't you?

20 posted on 12/19/2002 1:56:25 PM PST by SheLion
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