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1 posted on 12/21/2002 8:57:28 AM PST by madfly
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Fighting illegal immigration doesn't contribute to the establishment of our new police state.
2 posted on 12/21/2002 9:00:52 AM PST by Sparta
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Frankly, I'm tired of the use of the term "Invasion", with all respect to Michelle Malkin.

It's not an "invasion," it's a migration or an illegal immigration.

Period.

And it's not happening because of some dark and nefarious plan of the Illuminati, it's happening because we don't have the political will to stop it.

I hope that it will become a political issue "real soon now," but I don't really see much sign of it.

An "invasion" is with tanks and troops and holding of territory. This is a migration. Such migrations have occurred from time to time throughout history; indeed, many of the peoples like the English and the Australians, and even the Americans, who are considered legitimate tenants of their lands, got where they are today, because of migrations that were somewhat resisted but inevitably and inexorably took place.

That's human history.

So what do we want to do about this one? That's the political question, but putting it in military terms is inappropriate.

3 posted on 12/21/2002 9:03:04 AM PST by Illbay
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4 posted on 12/21/2002 9:05:53 AM PST by madfly
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Someone once said, "All politics is local" Until the immigrant swarm hurts you, most people don't care.
6 posted on 12/21/2002 9:11:25 AM PST by pabianice
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Ted Kennedy's immigration "reform" bill of 1965, signed into law by Lyndon Johnson. This bill effectively limits European immigration and opens the floodgates Third World immigration. These immigrants will normally vote for those that promise them a "free ride" and give it to them.
11 posted on 12/21/2002 9:30:12 AM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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The Free Republic is the internet's premier "hate the mexicans" web site.
12 posted on 12/21/2002 9:33:53 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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"Among Hispanic groups, Mexicans had the lowest proportion of full-time, year-round workers with annual earnings of $35,000 or more (21 percent). Overall, Hispanics were less likely than non-Hispanic Whites to have earnings of $35,000 or more (23 percent compared with 49 percent)".

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I wonder how many Americans want these poor paying jobs? Older retired folks oe young Americans just out of High School?

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"Among Hispanics, 66 percent were of Mexican origin; 14 percent were of Central and South American origin; 9 percent were of Puerto Rican origin; 4 percent were of Cuban origin; and the remaining 6 percent were other Hispanics. The country's overall Latino population was close to 33 million, or 12 percent of the total population."

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When viewing census statistics, keep in mind that our Census Bureau identifies Hispanics amongst the "White".

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http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2001/cb01-41.html

13 posted on 12/21/2002 9:38:54 AM PST by B4Ranch
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I sometimes wonder if this whole Mid East adventure (seeing we do not look for osma any more) isn't being used as a cover for the REAL agenda..a united hemisphere
14 posted on 12/21/2002 9:39:50 AM PST by RnMomof7
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QUESTION: "Immigration: Where is the OUTRAGE??"

ANSWER: There is none. People are too busy eating, drinking, drugging, copulating(with boys and girls),evacuating and snoring.

17 posted on 12/21/2002 10:13:46 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Illegal immigration is stoked by the US EMPLOYERS and BUSINESSES who hire these people.

Until anger is directed at the builders, landscape companies, hotel conglomerates and industrial facilities and farms that hire the illegals, it is totally ineffectual to complain.

Penalise the businesses and watch the migrations dry up.

Now who, if any politician has the guts to cut off the gravy train for these companies.
19 posted on 12/21/2002 10:15:32 AM PST by swarthyguy
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Where is the OUTRAGE?

Political Correctness, which has been perfected by the liberals in conjunction with their partners in crime, the liberal press, has scared silly anyone in power or anyone with any influence, into taking a stand against anything that is right.

26 posted on 12/21/2002 12:13:40 PM PST by b4its2late
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Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.Colo.) has been a lightening rod on the immigration issue out in the Rocky Mountain west. He has been excoriated mercilessly and demonized by the lefty news media, in particular the Denver Post.

Believe me, Madfly, the outrage is there. We out here are cheering Mr. Tancredo on. The borders should be shut immediately until a sensible immigration policy is adopted into law. What passes for policy now is a joke...a bad joke!!
27 posted on 12/21/2002 12:31:48 PM PST by wunderkind54
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Isolationism doesn't work.
37 posted on 12/21/2002 2:32:36 PM PST by ChadGore
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Paranoia runs rampant on FR.

Look up!

The sky is falling!

69 posted on 12/21/2002 6:14:56 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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bump to the top
75 posted on 12/21/2002 7:03:13 PM PST by timestax
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The Republican party is way too politically correct to be outraged. It's a sell out........
84 posted on 12/21/2002 7:42:32 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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All the more reason to believe that some folks in D.C. are behind some of things going on there....

If September 11, 2001 had actually been pulled of by a 20-odd "Illegal Aliens" - then all borders would have been summarily sealed - -- - period.

That, by any source available, has yet to have happened.

89 posted on 12/21/2002 7:58:50 PM PST by Coto
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I can't fathom why Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Ashcroft, and all those in Congress are not doing daily press conferences, alerting Americans to the invasion that has been, and continues to take place every single day of the year.

You can't fathom it? Let me help you out:

Money and Votes. For the GOP it's mostly the former, and for the Dims it's mostly the latter (although there is some overlap). True bipartisanship.

92 posted on 12/21/2002 8:10:54 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Illegals are the pits, but the fact is the Democrats want the vote if they can legalize many.
Republicans are scared to death that they will be labeled a racist for asking laws to be upheld on this issue.
Meanwhile hospitals, services and our education funds in many states are being driven beyond broke by them.

This hasn't gone national as an issue and that is why nothing is made to happen about illegals.

Dems want the votes through typical handouts and Republicans are wetting their pants in fear of standing up for the law and our public funds on this issue.

This is an area where Republicans have been the biggest wimps.
109 posted on 12/21/2002 8:54:07 PM PST by A CA Guy
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"I can't fathom why Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Ashcroft, and all those in Congress are not doing daily press conferences, alerting Americans to the invasion that has been, and continues to take place every single day of the year."

The "invasion" is being rewarded to the tune of a $1 Billion dollar bonus.

That's how much will be paid the first year to Mexican citizens for Social Security from the U.S. treasury (for the work they did in the U.S.).

Looks more like an unspoken "treaty" than an invasion if you think about it.

Why else would congress agree to pay Mexicans retirement pay on the taxes they paid while working in the U.S.?

119 posted on 12/21/2002 9:31:38 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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