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To: jlogajan
Several missionairies I have talked to report an interesting phenomenon when discussing the Good News of Jesus Christ. A very common reaction is something along the lines of "Jesus, huh? So that's what you call him?"

Already you have backed down on your assertions of innocent children going to hell (which is incorrect); your assertions of Faith in Christ being a "get out of hell free card" (which is incorrect) and are now telling us that actually know what we are talking about, that some how we are being "cruel" in informing people that God wants them to be with Him, and provided the mechanism for them to escape judgement under God's standard of perfect adherence to the law.

Let's be clear, jlog. People do not go to hell for lack of faith in Christ. People go to Hell because they sin. Read Romans Chapter 1 & 2 about God's "out clause" for those that follow "Natural Law" perfectly. (Hint: no one obeys any moral code perfectly; I suspect even Ayn Rand told a fib or two in her life and felt a desire to initiate force on some one for no good reason other than being angered by the other person.) You cannot have it both ways. Everyone stands under judgement from the Natural Law (known to all) or the revealed law of the Old Testament (or both).

I cannot stay silent--I have a love for the man who asked me to go forth and make disciples in all the nations. I have received freely, and my gratitude means that I will give freely. I care for what happens to you because Christ cared what happens to you.

BTW, what happened to you? Two years ago you could discuss christianity without resorting to distortions in your arguments. A disappointing thing to see from you...
121 posted on 12/23/2002 11:45:15 AM PST by L,TOWM
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To: L,TOWM
Already you have backed down on your assertions of innocent children going to hell

First of all, it is the position of some of your fellow religionists that that is the case. I don't believe in either heaven or hell, so it certainly isn't any position of mine.

Secondly, they make a good case. The Bible pretty plainly states that the way to heaven is through a belief in Jesus -- the only way, in fact. Those religionists who believe that other religions have no chance (including their children) of making it to heaven (and thus the alternative is hell) have a strong documentary case -- despite your latter day interpretations.

125 posted on 12/23/2002 7:30:41 PM PST by jlogajan
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