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To: RLK
I do not believe people once lived to be 900 years old. The Bible is a hidiously gruesome brutal document of doubtful historical fact. It has nothing to do with risk-taking.

This is a rather interesting thread, despite no believing Christian coming forward to argue the other side - up to this point.

I am a believing born-again Christian who attends and supports a small United Methodist Church. I disagree with you about the Bible being gruesome. Taken as a whole it's a story of how God created everything in the universe, yet saw fit to come here (to Earth) as a man to let us know who He is, that He loves us and understands what we experience - all of it.

We are about to celebrate His coming to Earth like we all do - through birth. How amazing.

Without my faith I would have nothing to work for or believe in. Those who live without knowing who God is are missing what is the greatest joy one can have. I hope all of you who don't have an understanding of who God is are invited to church by someone who is a believer in Christ and the one true God. If you are touched by Him your life will change in ways I can't describe. Merry Christmas to you all.

22 posted on 12/22/2002 5:50:48 PM PST by toddst
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To: toddst
Without my faith I would have nothing to work for or believe in.

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Without you faith I find much to believe in through observation and honest intellectual derivation. The process isn't easy and isn't for everybody.

25 posted on 12/22/2002 5:54:27 PM PST by RLK
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To: toddst
I am a believing born-again Christian who attends and supports a small United Methodist Church.

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It puzzles me how anyone of sensibility could attend the same denomination the Clintons went to and which endorsed Bill Clinton.

26 posted on 12/22/2002 5:56:41 PM PST by RLK
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To: toddst
,,, endorsement for your post #22 Todd. Have a great Christmas and all the best for 2003 and beyond.
29 posted on 12/22/2002 6:10:41 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: toddst
Brother, you aren't alone. Though I am puzzled by your choice of denomination (I am Roman Catholic), though in the big picture not the most important thing.

In general people are scared of commitment, Church, Christianity require incredible commitment, submitting one's life to Him who gave it to us, that takes a lot of commitment, something many people, and many men are afraid of. God Bless You

Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit
38 posted on 12/22/2002 6:38:46 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat
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To: toddst
We are about to celebrate His coming ... If you are touched by Him

I just noticed something. There's heavy homosexual overtones in both religion and football. "He put it deep into the other guy's endzone", "He knelt down and accepted the body of Christ". Ick, I don't care for either outlet myself.

44 posted on 12/22/2002 6:45:49 PM PST by Reeses
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To: toddst
While I admire your faith, I'm about to let you in on a little secret:

You can believe in God without believing in the Bible.
52 posted on 12/22/2002 7:10:33 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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