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To: MacDorcha
but, my point is, if the Bang-Crunch is constant, something MUST keep it going. God. if not, something must have made us exist. God. whatever form He takes, science can only prove him, even when they contradict themselves, and find new "evidence" all it does is further this truth: we will never know everything, but everything exists. if everything exists, their must be an X-factor. the X-factor is God.
27 posted on 12/22/2002 7:01:18 PM PST by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha
. . . if the Bang-Crunch is constant, something MUST keep it going . . .

Think of Newton's First Law.

37 posted on 12/22/2002 7:06:59 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: MacDorcha
the X-factor is God.

But you are making an assumption that science cannot make. Scientists attempt to explain observed phenomena according to our understanding...and our understanding increases with each new discovery. What you are using as argument is a leap of faith or intuition that philosophy and theology allow.

38 posted on 12/22/2002 7:08:10 PM PST by Scully
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To: MacDorcha
a simpler X-factor would be the universe always existed becuaue if we have God we again have the problem that somehow he appeared out of nothing or always existed. The simpler explaination is to cut out that extra step called God. We know the universe exists.
42 posted on 12/22/2002 7:09:58 PM PST by Sentis
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