Rumsfeld Warns North Korea U.S. Can Handle Two Conflicts at Once

fox ^ | 12/23/02

[VetoBill]

and maybe we would see some Chinese 'meddling' in the matter

I admit I am ignorant on this issue, perhaps you could enlighten me.

What are the current relations between North Korea and China? If a crisis situation appears to be imminent, could China step in and appear to calm a crisis situation? Would North Korea, or the world accept Chinese peace keepers in control of North Korea military assets? What sealift capabilities does North Korea have?

I am just wondering if China could along with North Korea perform a sort of maskirovka (deception) to unite their forces under cover, while China supplements its military hardware with North Korean assets and gains good PR, in front of a world wide audience, for dissolving a critical situation.

[RightWhale]

Chinese peace keepers in control of North Korea military assets?

China doesn't need anything N Kor has, and they don't need the expense of keeping the peace on the penninsula. If there is action involving the US, China will be onboard with the US and the rules will be worked out at the highest level.

[Happy2BMe]

The North Koreans are cash-poor and desparate.

Their population is kept under strict dictatorial oppression of a kind not seen since Stalin did his wonders on the Russians during "indoctrination."

The people are literally starving.

The sucker is no better off than is father, kim il sung.

I wouldn't put it past him using nukes (first strike).

Of course that would mean the annihalation of North Korea.

Too sad. And now the South Koreans are crying "Yankee, get your a$$e$ out of here - now."

Go figure that one.

Rumsfeld has kept a low profile. Our pre-Desert Storm strategy was one of fighting two major wars on two separate fronts.

That was in the pre-Clunkton era.

We be hurtin' now to try and think we have the firepower we did when we first went up against Saddam. We could have fought two fronts then, but it would have been tough.

To attempt to do so now is uh - well - stupid!

[OKSooner]

Hell, they know where the stuff is!

What's the problem?

[Mr. Mojo]

The Clinton administration considered bombing the same site, a nuclear facility at Yongbyon, in 1994, before that crisis was resolved.

Does anyone truly believe that?

[goldilucky]

I agree with post #25. Just the title of this thread should say it best...our troops are being used as pawns to fight a war we have no business being involved with. This war serves nothing more than that of a private "vested interest" rather than one based on violations of U.N. treaties. Our troops should be at home with their families. Simple as that. We should have taken out Saddam Hussein a long time ago. The fact is this is a war about oil and the vested interest it serves is not one of national security of the John Q. Public but instead that of the power elite who hold a vested interest in the oil.

[Mr. Mojo]

There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that Saddam was intimately involved in the 9/11 attacks. Now, he's going to pay the piper. Deal with it.

A link, just for you

[goldilucky]

That doesn't surprise me a bit!! What concerns me is that our own FBI had prior knowledge thanks to Agent Bob Wright coming out on ABC PrimeTime television last week to reveal this to the public. So, our own government is involved in this massacre against innocent american people! The only entity I am "dealing" with is God. I do not put my faith in our so-called leaders. God will prevail over those responsible for this 9-11 tragedy. He'll make them all pay!!!

[agincourt1415]

I cannot believe anybody would get excited about North Korea. They have so FEW TARGETS, it would take hardly any airstrikes to totally imobilize their fighting capability. And Nuclear Weapons, a salvo from half a Trident Submarine would take care of em, NEXT CASE!

[agincourt1415]

By the way Rummy was in a great mood today. The poor Liberal Media, I almost feel sorry for em, LOL, Rummy just runs them into the ground, in a very nice way.

[StriperSniper]

Yup.

[Mr. Mojo]

Just because some FBI agents had a suspicion that a terrorist attack was going to happen sometime around 9/11 does not translate into out own government being "involved in this massacre against innocent American people." That's an outrageous and highly irresponsible statement. No one doubts that there was serious incompetence displayed by our two main intelligence agencies both before and after the attack, but understand that they're inundated with possible info on terrorism on a constant basis, and sifting through the likely scenarios is a very difficult task. Believe me, our gov't didn't "know for sure" about the 9/11 attacks prior to their execution. Your reasoning is worthy of the French (or Arabs). We're talking serious tinfoil here, ma'am.

Bottom line: Saddam not only knew about 9/11, but he helped plan the damn thing. He attacked the U.S., and there's going to be hell to pay in return.

[Darnright]

"Actually North Korea would make it more like three conflicts."

Aren't we still mired in the Kosovo mess Clinton got us into?

[goldilucky]

It is not based on suspicion as to what Agent Bob Wright had. It is based on his own experience working within the FBI department in investigating this matter. And as for the tinfoil piece of crap, I prefer to bare my forehead proudly!!!

[goldilucky]

bump this post!

[Mr. Mojo]

Indeed is was suspicion. Bob Wright never said anyone in in FBI knew for sure that an attack was imminent on 9/11. You're reading into it what you want to read into it. Try looking at the matter more objectively.

[goldilucky]

I would strongly suggest that you call up ABC PrimeTime and order the tape which aired this segment on 12-19-02 and then watch it. Bob Wright is being represented by Judicial Watch whose mission is to go after corrupt government officials. Check out the website at www.judicialwatch.org

C-SPAN also aired Bob Wright coming forward on this issue as early on as May 31st of this year. It was a long segment. I think about 2 hours. Media Bypass also exposed this in their Volume 10 #7 July 2002 magazine which made the front cover!! 1-800-4-ByPass

For ABC producers to have Bob Wright go on national television to expose this outrageous clandestine behavior of government officials is amazing. I never thought I'd see the day this would happen but it did.

[goldilucky]

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[goldilucky]

Rule No. 1. Know your enemy.

Rule No. 2 Never underestimate your enemy.

Rule No. 3. Never compromise with the enemy!

[Stavka2]

Problem is, the US military would be totally incapable of stopping the N. Koreans on their initial push and unlike last time, where Task Force Smith was sacrificed to its total slaughter to win time, there will be another conflict sucking up most of the US transport fleet (sea and air). Next, if the N. Koreans are able to move fast enough, then it will be extremely hard to restart a campeign when every port is already held. Nuclear? Hardly, first, if the US goes Nuclear on N. Korea, at the very least, kiss Okinawa and the US bases their a nuclear by-by. Maybe even parts of Alaska.

Besides, no one would trust the US if it started throwing nukes around and unlike what most people here would like to believe, the US can not go economically alone. If isolated, many US industries would go bankrupt from lack of markets, not to mention resources. Furthermore, the US military hasn't had the capability for 2 fronts in over 10 years, Gulf War I showed it with the 6 month prolonged build up. Only the fact that Saddam was a shmuck and didn't go on the offensive right off, allowed the US coalition to win.

As for China, the US will not go nuclear, it will not risk all it's troop bases and navel bases in the area, as well as it's richest state, California, to nuclear annialation, and the Chinese know it.

Nukes only work when the other guy doesn't have them.